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Alt-Right Torah Talk.

Discussion in 'Religion' started by SwordOfStCatherine, Jul 3, 2017.

  1. SwordOfStCatherine

    SwordOfStCatherine Legend Political Irish

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    Jews have a cycle of Torah portions they are supposed to read through out the year. Often they meet up to discuss the portion with each other. This is quite an interesting youtube Torah discussion group led by an ex-journalist on the pornography industry who converted to Orthodox Judaism who has essentially Social Darwinist views and identifies with White Nationalism. They have quite interesting discussions dealing with ethno-nationalism and Judaism without any Political Correctness.

     
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  2. Dublin 4

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    Some "True Torah" guys are the best you could meet- never heard of any Alt Right True Torahs though.
     
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    SwordOfStCatherine

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    He isn't ethnically Jewish, he was raised Seventh Day Adventist and I don't think he represents anyone but himself. He isn't someone I would particularly like to hang around however he does have very interesting things to say at times even if he obsession with IQ gets repetitive.
     
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    That was an interesting podcast.

    They basically just confirm all the theories that Alt-Right has about Jews.

    At 33:35 he talks about the strength of the Goy being able to be measured by how likely they are to tolerate practices that they find abhorrent like circumcision and halal meats and that if a gentile society banned circumcision than Jews would have little choice but to leave.

    He quotes a 2001 study of S.Korea men which found that 78% of men were circumcised while previously the phenomenon didn't exist until Jewish doctors arrived with the American military. They state they believe it clearly reduces sexual pleasure.

    They conclude that it is only natural for goys to question why are they allowing themselves to be circumcised.

    They joke that his why it's very important to keep the goy distracted with good television, movies and sports.

    At 38:50 they talk about the documentary "The Greatest Story Never Told"

    He thought it was refreshing to understand a different perspective on Hitler and thought it was a balanced documentary.

    At about 50 minutes in, he recommends David Duke's autobiography and talk about how it was surprising that he was practically raised by a black woman and that she told him one day he would be president. They were impressed with his interview with black youtuber Tommy Sotomayor in which he expressed no hate for Jews, only valid criticism.

    He recommends the book "Antisemitism before the Holocaust".

    They joke about Jews' natural incentive to dilute the goys' racial, national and religious identity for Jews own survival and well-being.

    At 1hr and 6 minutes in, the non-Jewish guy starts talking about how it's almost like people like him are taught to hate their ancestors for their evil and become completely deracinated.

    At 1hr and 8 minutes in they talk about what is called "Alt-Right" or "Neo-Nazism" these days is what all of the presidents believed before JFK.

    They joke about how Jews control the left and the right media (like Breitbart) so everything can get filtered through their lens and they get to control the overton window.

    At 1hr 40mins in they say the reason we don't have museums to the victims of communism is because this would raise some awkward questions about the Jewish role in communism and might wake the Goy up to looking after their own interests.
     
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  5. Kershaw

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    Just dawned on me that I did hear his interview with Greg Johnson previously

     
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    Just confirms my belief that the South Koreans are castrated people - but I didn't know they were literally castrated.
     
  7. Ire-land

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    Cheers for that, man.
     
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    SwordOfStCatherine

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    Well the thing as Paul Gottfried said that if Jews are really as super smart and all powerful as people like David Duke and to a lesser extent Kevin Mc Donald (and I have a lot more respect for the latter than I do for the former) than surely it must be the Natural Order so to speak for them to rule as being so obviously superior? Paul Gottfried however though Jewish himself doesn't think the Jews are all that- his writings on the Jewish Neo-Conservatives in the United States, he has a personal animus against them because they went out destroy his career because remained loyal to friends who they believed had to be destroyed for whatever reason, presents them as neurotic bullies who only got where they did because the WASPs had become utterly decadent.

    That is the thing about Luke Ford- I wonder how much he actually believes the Religious aspects of Judaism? While Irish Catholics are in general not that concerned about issues to do with the theory of evolution and the age of the earth it is not so with Orthodox Jews who are firmly "Young Earth Creationists". He seems to have been attracted to Judaism because of the obvious earthly successfulness of a lot of Jews in the United States (though Orthodox Jews do tend to be often significantly poorer than other Jews). He seems to approach the whole thing from a Social Darwinist combined with "Evolutionary Psychology" stand point. Than again feeling isn't as nearly important in Rabbinic Judaism as it is in Protestant Christianity, what you do is much more important than any internal disposition in it which for Evangelical Prods it is totally the other way around- being raised Evangelical I still think like one very often, though in subtle ways.

    The stuff about circumcision is very true. The only reason at all for it is Ritual/Religious (I have read that certain Egyptian Priests performed in on themselves as part of their initiation into the Priesthood of certain gods). The way it became the norm in the United States after WWII speaks volumes. I suspect the claims which I have heard that it significantly reduces sexual pleasure are false though.

    Ernst Junger spent what free time he got in World War II reading the Old Testament which he said he profoundly enjoyed because so much of it was about Politics. I think the central idea behind the show is a good one.
     
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    SwordOfStCatherine

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    Richard Spencer was on this week's Alt-Right Torah Talk;

     
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  10. Kershaw

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    Starts at 47 minutes.
    Did you get the feeling that Richard had no idea he was talking to Jews?
     
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    SwordOfStCatherine

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    No, what gave you that impression?

    Only the girl there is ethnically Jewish, Luke Ford is a convert, and she didn't say anything at all that I can remember to Richard. I found it disappointing but I did find it interesting that Richard Spencer believes that Jews should be excluded from the Alt-Right and also that he now wants global white hegemony. Most really hard line European ethno-nationalists would have Tadgh's anti-imperialism (I'm thinking of Casa Pound in Italy and the autonomous nationalists in Germany as well as various people in France), that was a central plank of the French New Right who originally the Yankee Alt-Right were trying to ape so it was interesting that he has now dropped it. Every time I listen to an Alt-Right personality they sound more like Madison Grant and Lothrop Stoddard and less like Alain De Benoist.
     
  12. Kershaw

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    Well they kept asking about Jews and he'd say things like "We should work with those who are amenable to our ideas but...."
    Then when the woman held up her baby, he complimented her on her 'white baby'.
     
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    SwordOfStCatherine

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    Yeah I forgot about that, that was weird, however she wasn't wearing a hair covering and I'm not sure many people would guess that she was a Jewess on first meeting. The older guy with the glasses isn't Jewish. It was interesting though that he admitted that the American Jewish analyst and think Paul Gottfried, who I really respect and like a lot even if I have massive problems with his economic thinking, was pivotal to his own intellectual development. Also I don't think that there is a simple answer to the question as to whether Ashkenazi Jews are part of European Civilization or not- I would be hesitant to exclude Gustav Mahler, Arnold Schoenberg, Heinrich Heine and Simone Weil from the European cultural Pantheon but at the same time I do recognize a difference. In a way it's very similar to the debate as to whether Ulster Prods are Irish. I do though think that Jews should either be Patriots, separate themselves and not interfere in Gentile affairs or go and live in Birobidzhan. However if Patriots are going to be exclude even very "Westernized" and Pro-West Jews than the first option isn't really open to them is it?

    What are your thoughts on the subject?
     
  14. Kershaw

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    Tricky subject alright.
    Anyway, I was just thinking they told him the show was Torah Talk and he probably thought it was an ironic podcast name because a lot of Alt-Right podcasts do use Ironic names.