• This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn more.
  • To post you need to register an account and await approval. Click Here to sign up!

Catalonian Independence News

Plasticpaddy

Respected Member
Political Irish
Joined
Mar 23, 2016
Messages
1,625
Likes
867
Points
113
Think bullfight,Catalonia the matadors,Spain the bull.Catalonians ask for a referendum on independence,Spain refuses,Catalonians do it anyway,red cape torro torro Spanish bull rushes in.Tactically speaking all Spain had to do was say go ahead have your referendum,we'll ignore it.No they rush in like a bull and make themselves look foolish.Like the bull ,they will almost certainly lose.Now the Spanish King turns up with the bull shit.The very idea this cheeky ponce has the nerve to lecture the Catalan people about democracy,this state puppet ,a self serving parasite shows how odious and undemocratic,the monarchy are.
 

Gaelswidow

Member
Political Irish
Joined
Jan 31, 2016
Messages
1,058
Likes
521
Points
113
Interesting times ahead in Spain.

MADRID (Reuters) - Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy is struggling to secure support from across the traditional political divide in his battle to stop Catalonia breaking away - a lack of consensus that could compound Spain’s worst political crisis for decades.

Rajoy is mulling the unprecedented step of invoking the constitution to dissolve the Catalan parliament and trigger regional elections, ruling party lawmakers say, after Catalonia held an independence vote on Sunday despite violent attempts to stop it.
Sacking the Catalan government is known in Madrid as the “nuclear option”, given it is considered likely to foment unrest in Barcelona and through the rest of the heavily industrialized, affluent region that accounts for a fifth of Spain’s economy.

However, Rajoy’s People’s Party (PP) governs in minority and before playing this trump card, it has been in talks with the main opposition party, the Socialists, to seek their explicit support for such a move, a leading PP lawmaker said.
Article 155 of the 1978 constitution has never been used in a country where fascist dictatorship is a living memory. The conservative PP is seen by Catalans as historically connected to the era of late dictator Francisco Franco, so experts say Rajoy must have the Socialists, also strong unionists, on board.

“The 155 needs wide-ranging backing because we don’t know whether it will resolve problems, and if it’s only backed by one party in congress then it will be difficult to obtain the backing of a majority of Catalans,” said Rafael Hernando, who serves as a parliamentary organizer for the PP.
Spanish PM seeks safety in numbers before playing Catalonia trump card
 

Liberal D4'er

Member
Political Irish
Joined
Oct 30, 2015
Messages
806
Likes
68
Points
28
Oh for the days of the beloved General. He would hold Spain together during such times. And punish the adherents. We say nay to democracy and yes to holding Spain together through violence blood and fire. Oh General where forth art thou?
 

Plasticpaddy

Respected Member
Political Irish
Joined
Mar 23, 2016
Messages
1,625
Likes
867
Points
113
Oh for the days of the beloved General. He would hold Spain together during such times. And punish the adherents. We say nay to democracy and yes to holding Spain together through violence blood and fire. Oh General where forth art thou?
Where are the days of the socialist democracy?Where are the eurocrats speaking up for democracy?Never was there such a tale of woe,and to hell with old Franco.
 

Liberal D4'er

Member
Political Irish
Joined
Oct 30, 2015
Messages
806
Likes
68
Points
28
Where are the days of the socialist democracy?Where are the eurocrats speaking up for democracy?Never was there such a tale of woe,and to hell with old Franco.
Meh a royalist republican. Too hell with communistic republicanism. Remember all Spains gold reserves were moved from their central bank to Russia under the republic as well as freedom to worship under the Catholic Church was restricted. Meh to the republic - being back the General
 

Plasticpaddy

Respected Member
Political Irish
Joined
Mar 23, 2016
Messages
1,625
Likes
867
Points
113
All power to democracy,the Madrid government have made fools of themselves and probably lost Catalonia for good.
 

FairstoodtheWind

Member
Political Irish
Joined
Oct 30, 2015
Messages
852
Likes
1,253
Points
143
All power to democracy,the Madrid government have made fools of themselves and probably lost Catalonia for good.
so you keep saying, but no sign yet.

the way Spain is being fucked at the moment, the real winners are still sitting in the wings refining their restored Al Andalus plan. slowly slowly catchee monkee
 

Plasticpaddy

Respected Member
Political Irish
Joined
Mar 23, 2016
Messages
1,625
Likes
867
Points
113
so you keep saying, but no sign yet.

the way Spain is being fucked at the moment, the real winners are still sitting in the wings refining their restored Al Andalus plan. slowly slowly catchee monkee
El Cid!El Cid!El Cid! Certainly all Spain has to beware all Islamic ambition.Spain and Catalonia need to be free of the EU too.
 

El Chaval.

Respected Member
Political Irish
Joined
Oct 31, 2015
Messages
1,560
Likes
2,692
Points
163
France has said they will not recognise Catalan declaration of independence.
In fact, apart from maybe Venezuela, I cant think of anyone who will recognise it.
They will immediately booted out of the EU if they do so also. (No bad thing, may I add).
Also, the main opposition party (Socialist Party) in Spain has backed the Govt stance on Catalonia


The massive peaceful rally in Barcelona is what the unionists should have been doing for the last few years, instead of Rajoy's hamfisted approach.
 

bandypane

Member
Political Irish
Joined
Mar 7, 2016
Messages
167
Likes
69
Points
28
According to the BBC

17:47
Reasons for shock delay debated
Speculation is rife about the reasons Mr Puigdemont's address was delayed at the very last minute:
  • Some Spanish sources say there is a possibility of international mediation - something the Catalan leader has previously called for
  • Others are reporting that his party's coalition partners, the left-wing CUP party, were not happy with the text of his speech
  • A third possibility being discussed is that national politicians from PM Mariano Rajoy's conservative PP and the centrist Ciudadanos have tried to have his parliament appearance cancelled
 

SwordOfStCatherine

Legend
Political Irish
Joined
Oct 30, 2015
Messages
6,054
Likes
7,156
Points
313
France has said they will not recognise Catalan declaration of independence.
In fact, apart from maybe Venezuela, I cant think of anyone who will recognise it.
They will immediately booted out of the EU if they do so also. (No bad thing, may I add).
Also, the main opposition party (Socialist Party) in Spain has backed the Govt stance on Catalonia


The massive peaceful rally in Barcelona is what the unionists should have been doing for the last few years, instead of Rajoy's hamfisted approach.
France has Brittany, the Basque Nation and Corsica to worry about. In my experience politically the most down to earth people in French politics you will find are the "Identitarian" pro-Independence Bretons. I would like Breton and Corsican independence but I don't know enough about the Basque situation to say yay or nae. The same goes for Catalonia. Scotland faced big problems about getting into the EU if the referendum went the SNP way from France and Spain.