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David Icke, nut or truthseeker?

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I admire Icke. Galloway is just a fellow that is knowledgeable in his socialist ideas, he is too ignorant though to listen to anybody else.

Icke is in fact a genius and has been proven to have correctly foreseen the word of today, from 25 years ago. I read one of his books and listen to him frequently.
LOL !
I have no doubts about that !
 

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I read and listen to a wide range of differing opinions Olli. Why don't you do the same, it costs nothing nowadays. I even on occasion listen to Galloway
 
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I read and listen to a wide range of differing opinions Olli. Why don't you do the same, it costs nothing nowadays. I even on occasion listen to Galloway
Thanks for the advice.
But I rely on common sense and have not lost the ability to smell a dead rat like many others.
Reminds me- any news about "Barry"or "Michael" ?
 

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Rat or no rat, events have proven Icke correct.
 
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Epileptic fit or near death experience ? Does not make a difference. Both conditions lead to hallucinations. These should be treated with extreme caution.
If you think they are of some value for your own spiritual survival, accept them. But nobody should turn them into a religion and force this on others.
 

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Olli Icke has been good at predicting things which explains a lot of his appeal.
Ocourse, he has been so accurate that he can get
10000 people to pay to hear him speak.



He got 12000 at Wembley for 10 hours.
 
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Icke certainly did have a breakdown in the 1980s, or early 90s - can't remember which. And he was destroyed before millions of people on TV by Terry Wogan - who I always considered a prime cretin. I presume that Icke does suffer from schizophrenia - but so have many great people who had brilliant minds. When a person has a schizophrenic breakdown, their psychological ordering of the world breaks down. This is the crisis phase of the breakdown. But the mind regains stability by creating a new ordering of the world. Very often the person will experience this new ordering as a sudden revelation from outside this world - in the old days this was usually a divine revelation given to them by a saint or angel, but in today's science fiction world the revelation is very like to involve aliens from outer space. The schizophrenic person will then cling to this revelation for dear life - as he \ she comes to believe that this revelation is the whole purpose of their life - and believe that she \ she must pass on this revelation to the rest of the world. Which is not to say that what Icke is saying is wrong. If you leave out the bit about alien reptiles, then 95% of what he says is completely true. And he does say it in a way that is entertaining and engaging. The fact is that he reaches the ordinary person in a way that learned Marxist professors never could, and he explains the core truth, i.e. that there is a tiny elite that are keeping the rest of us in perpetual war and misery all for the sake of their own profits.
The thing is though that what defines mental illness really is not the eccentricity of people's ideas but their inability to function. I know a lad who is a geo-centrist and believes it is heretical not to be so- yet he holds down a well paying job and has a stable married life so he cannot be considered mentally ill. David Icke appears to be able to function in a way that clinically schizophrenic people can't. As regards to Terry Wogan I don't know to much about him at all but from the clips of him I have seen he comes across as one of the smuggest creeps you could ever meet. I loathe smugness- and I think that is one of Icke's appeals, he isn't smug. And lets face it mainstream Western culture and politics in our time is filled with people who ooze smug insincerity.
 

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The thing is though that what defines mental illness really is not the eccentricity of people's ideas but their inability to function. I know a lad who is a geo-centrist and believes it is heretical not to be so- yet he holds down a well paying job and has a stable married life so he cannot be considered mentally ill. David Icke appears to be able to function in a way that clinically schizophrenic people can't. As regards to Terry Wogan I don't know to much about him at all but from the clips of him I have seen he comes across as one of the smuggest creeps you could ever meet. I loathe smugness- and I think that is one of Icke's appeals, he isn't smug. And lets face it mainstream Western culture and politics in our time is filled with people who ooze smug insincerity.

I know people who are schizophrenic and they live relatively normal lives. The medication is pretty good these days. In the past the neuroleptics were so strong they would leave the person too tired to do a job or continue any kind of social activity, but they are much lighter now. Of course, I don't know if Icke has been diagnosed with schizophrenia, but his behaviour on that first Wogan show certainly looked like it. I certainly wouldn't say that accepting cult ideas is a sign of mental illness, but there are certain mental processes that are very typical of schizophrenia.
 
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Icke has not just spoken about "lizards" he has also covered the role of the banking elite and paedo rings in the upper eschelon of society.

In regard to the more difficult subject matters he speaks about, an interesting observation is in regard to his theory of vibrations. A notion copied by Michio Kaku

Michio Kaku (/ˈmiːtʃioʊ ˈkɑːkuː/; born January 24, 1947) is an American theoretical physicist, futurist, and popularizer of science.

Kaku is a professor of theoretical physics at the City College of New York and CUNY Graduate Center.

He has written several books about physics and related topics, has made frequent appearances on radio, television, and film, and writes online blogs and articles. He has written three New York Times best sellers: Physics of the Impossible (2008), Physics of the Future (2011), and The Future of the Mind (2014). Kaku has hosted several TV specials for the BBC, the Discovery Channel, the History Channel, and the Science Channel.

What David Icke Said in 1991, Dr Michio Kaku Confirms in 2008:

 

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He is not nutty, he has views that many consider nutty.

A relatively gentle wind destroying a steel bridge might appear nutty as well, but it is very real.