Some strong objections were voiced at the meeting, which was organised by the Licensed Vintners Association (LVA), the Restaurants Association of Ireland, the Temple Bar Company and addiction service Aisling Group International. Councillor Mannix Flynn spoke out against injection centres, saying it was the wrong road to take and that they would encourage drug addicts to harm themselves. "We're dealing with chronic addicts. We're saying, 'Here's the rope, why don't you go hang yourself'," he said. However, Neil Forsyth, of homeless support group Focus Ireland, said the issue was not clear-cut, and it seemed that people had already "nailed their colours to the mast" while calling for a debate. He described how drug add-icts were being found dead on the streets on an almost daily basis. Kris Karlsson, a reformed criminal and former drug addict, said it was the 12-step programme that saved him from his life of drugs and that he became clean very late in life before going on to found KRIS, a charity for reforming criminal addicts. "I began to challenge myself to realise these harms I'd done to others," he said. 'I was attacked by a drug addict' - U2 hotel manager opposes injection centres 'But he also established a reputation as an angry, self-destructive hell-raising drinker, which he now says was de served.' The new, improved Mannix Flynn and the X factor - Independent.ie ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS WORLD SERVICES, INC. GUIDELINES FOR USE OF A.A.W.S. COPYRIGHTED MATERIAL A.A.W.S. copyrights are held in trust for A.A. as a whole. A.A.W.S. has a responsibility to protect these valuable A.A. assets both in terms of content and preserving the integrity of the A.A. message. In order to meet this responsibility, A.A.W.S. must ensure that A.A.'s copyrights remain undiminished by infringing activities. Further, as a practical matter, and in order to meet such responsibility, blanket or non-specific permission is not granted. Alcoholics Anonymous : Content Use Policy - How can a profitable charity such as the Aisling Group International claim that they are acting in the interests of a non-profit and non-political organisation? They can't unless they have been peddling a lie.. - 'In the intervening years Aisling's expertise and services have evolved. Aisling Group International is now respected for its work nationally and internationally and has received a number of awards. Its links extend globally into countries such as Australia, USA, Sweden, to name a few. It is a member of the European Federation of Therapeutic Communities. - Aisling Group International is a registered Charity and has a voluntary Management Committee. Aisling supports the UN conventions on narcotics and endeavours to reduce the demand for drugs. It supports the UN rulings on Children and Human Rights. In recent times the Charity was awarded the All Islands Special Endeavour Awards presented by President Mary McAleese.' - They have no Legal grounds to print material on behalf of any 12 Step Program. None whatsoever and as a matter of fact they are being willfully and Intellectually dishonest, as anyone who can read basic English can determine for themselves: - 'AA/CA/GA/NA state: is open to anyone regardless of age, race, sexual identity, religion or lack of religion. It is not affiliated with any other organisations (including religious or government organisations).' - At least three de facto using facilities already exist in Dublin, and have done for several decades, and whatsmore, they all exist right under Flynns nose. - Focus Ireland are not a service for drug users.