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Exposure: Undercover — Inside Britain's New Far-Right — ITV 9/11/17 at 10:35PM

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Some of those groups might have actually been hoping that somebody would do this. After all, how else are they going to get on mainstream TV. Waters is a total idiot though. If she had won the UKIP leadership this show would have been a very serious problem for them. She is clearly not leadership material for any group.
I don't think the documentary would've hurt them per say. The documentary makers just jeered at her, she didn't say anything unexpected bar some profanity. The mere fact of Waters getting elected would've split that party internally though. And Waters herself is too dour to be a successful mass politician.
 

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I don't think the documentary would've hurt them per say. The documentary makers just jeered at her, she didn't say anything unexpected bar some profanity. The mere fact of Waters getting elected would've split that party internally though. And Waters herself is too dour to be a successful mass politician.

I think they'd have had to remove her as leader, and that would have been a severe blow to the party. I'd say the producers of the show were gutted when she didn't win. Anyway, what is an Irish lesbian doing in that party? She seems to me to be just acting out some psychiatric problems.
 

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For sure, but doing a TV exposé like this wouldn't be at all easy. For one thing, the senior people are smart enough to watch what they say in front of junior members. In fact, junior members only get to hear what the senior people would say on TV. And they are very well aware of electronic surveillance. You'd need military grade surveillance to get what you want.
Well, if you had a stockpile of guns and were willing to take people on a one way trip to the bog, sure, that would discourage infiltrators. Any group like that though would feel the full brunt of the state.

There's not that much more they can do than what they are doing if they are non-violent. They're just going to have to suck up the embarrassment of this happening from time to time.
 

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Well, if you had a stockpile of guns and were willing to take people on a one way trip to the bog, sure, that would discourage infiltrators. Any group like that though would feel the full brunt of the state.

There's not that much more they can do than what they are doing if they are non-violent. They're just going to have to suck up the embarrassment of this happening from time to time.

Yes, that's true, but they could smarten themselves up a bit without having to try too hard. They lack discipline. Even their leaders lack discipline. I think the English today are even worse than the Irish in that respect.
 

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In relation to the English "far right," I don't get the impression that they actually love anything. They just don't want to see people who are different to them coming into their country. Now, that's a natural reaction, but it's not much of a basis for a national movement. English society was absolute garbage before the blacks started coming from the West Indies in the 1950s. I don't hear any far right people with any ideas about changing that basic fact. All they seem to want is the same old garbage - but just without any Muslims in sight.
 

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Britain is intrinscally a liberal dispensation and certainly urban based "far right" types are basically left-libertarian types who are defending their left-libertarian traditions from far-right Islamism albeit an Islam itself coaxed by the authoritarian globalist-left. (Some of the rural types are healthier but there's less problems in the schticks)

Nevertheless, primal truths remain locked away and distressing the system with forthright remarks stated publically means that some of the chains that lock up those primal truths are weakened and this is so even in a fundamentally disturbed place like Britain.
 

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White Native Europeans with common sense and willing to speak the truth = Far Right Racists
If that is the case we should be proud when SJW brainwashed fools call you racist,the word is used to try and silence the Natives,it is (((Cultural Marxism))) being used by the ((media))) and the (((system))),(((they))) are busy trying to commit Genocide on the European People through mass invasions that will lead to a clash of civilizations between The Christian World V The Islamic World and there hordes,make no mistake about it,we at at war here,everything we see happening is all by design
PATRIOTIC NATIONALISM AND TAKE BACK OUR SOVEREIGNTY BANKS AND BEGIN MASS DEPORTATIONS,AND ALSO PUT ON TRIAL THOSE POLITICIANS WHO SUPPORTED THIS MASS INVASION,THEY HAVE ALL SOLD US OUT AND COMMITTED TREASON,WAR IS UPON US
 

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Britain is intrinscally a liberal dispensation and certainly urban based "far right" types are basically left-libertarian types who are defending their left-libertarian traditions from far-right Islamism albeit an Islam itself coaxed by the authoritarian globalist-left. (Some of the rural types are healthier but there's less problems in the schticks)

Nevertheless, primal truths remain locked away and distressing the system with forthright remarks stated publically means that some of the chains that lock up those primal truths are weakened and this is so even in a fundamentally disturbed place like Britain.

I don't like to talk about Britain, as Britain as such doesn't exist. England is very real though. And it's a seriously dysfunctional society. The immigrants are merely a symptom of this dysfunction. I actually find it difficult to even imagine England ever being anything but a kip. Scotland and Wales could be saved by military dictatorship, as could Ireland. But even military dictatorship would find it difficult to make anything out of England. The military dictators themselves would have no discipline or order, not to mind the rabble you would have for the rank and file. Of course, the USA is even worse again. That's entirely psychotic. But you have discovered a key insight. The English far right certainly are left-libertarian types. That sums them up perfectly.
 

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I think they'd have had to remove her as leader, and that would have been a severe blow to the party. I'd say the producers of the show were gutted when she didn't win. Anyway, what is an Irish lesbian doing in that party? She seems to me to be just acting out some psychiatric problems.
She and Tommy Robinson are essentially "Emily Davison" and "Toland" types who instead of fixating on Catholicism started to fixate on Islam.
 

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In relation to the English "far right," I don't get the impression that they actually love anything. They just don't want to see people who are different to them coming into their country. Now, that's a natural reaction, but it's not much of a basis for a national movement. English society was absolute garbage before the blacks started coming from the West Indies in the 1950s. I don't hear any far right people with any ideas about changing that basic fact. All they seem to want is the same old garbage - but just without any Muslims in sight.
The National Front in the 1980s and things like the Soil Association in the past were quite interesting. The is that the old NF wasn't Islamophobic at all and actually greatly admired the Islamic Republic of Iran and Libya as it was than. However it was a bit over the top anti-Jewish which is understandable given from a Paleo-Tory point of view Dutch Jewry bank rolling Cromwell and Billy the Pink doesn't exactly inspire fondness while as the new Far Right is hysterically Zionist. Another difference is the new Far Right doesn't seem at all interested in the countryside, organic farming and animal welfare. The contemporary British Far Right figure I find most interesting is Bishop Richard Williamson.
 
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For sure, but doing a TV exposé like this wouldn't be at all easy. For one thing, the senior people are smart enough to watch what they say in front of junior members. In fact, junior members only get to hear what the senior people would say on TV. And they are very well aware of electronic surveillance. You'd need military grade surveillance to get what you want.
It's not like they're paramilitaries. They're just people concerned with mass immigration and the growth of Islam.
 

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Here's the documentary if you missed it:

I would say that most ordinary people in Britain believe in the death penalty for child sexual abuse. The strange thing is that the State gives often ridiculously light sentences for it. Another thing I noticed is that they left out of the Sikh involvement in the "New Far Right". The biggest ethnic tensions in contemporary England are between Sikhs and Muslims yet very often this is totally ignored.
 

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Here's the documentary if you missed it:

Well just watched that. Cant say there was much there which would shock most people. In fact one thing noticeable about the people involved is that they say the exact same thing in private that they do in public. Which is I think most refreshing and I don't think that could be said about most politicians.

How about we next get an expose about Hope Not Hate and their fellow type of organisations? What they do, where they get their money from, why the heck does "charity" Hope Not Hate operate out of a Palatial building just off Trafalgar Square (where you wont see sight nor sound of a refugee) when they could do the job (whatever that is) just as well for a fraction of the cost if their office was over a curry house in the Muslim ghetto of Whitechapel four or so miles away.

I suspect that such an expose would make the viewing public question why these organisations are allowed to have charitable status at all.
 

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White Native Europeans with common sense and willing to speak the truth = Far Right Racists
If that is the case we should be proud when SJW brainwashed fools call you racist,the word is used to try and silence the Natives,it is (((Cultural Marxism))) being used by the ((media))) and the (((system))),(((they))) are busy trying to commit Genocide on the European People through mass invasions that will lead to a clash of civilizations between The Christian World V The Islamic World and there hordes,make no mistake about it,we at at war here,everything we see happening is all by design
PATRIOTIC NATIONALISM AND TAKE BACK OUR SOVEREIGNTY BANKS AND BEGIN MASS DEPORTATIONS,AND ALSO PUT ON TRIAL THOSE POLITICIANS WHO SUPPORTED THIS MASS INVASION,THEY HAVE ALL SOLD US OUT AND COMMITTED TREASON,WAR IS UPON US
How about focusing on the real evil son. Why don't you et out the pitchfork/guns and kill off the west brits in this country? That's what a real patriot would do remove the imperialist invader not the brown slaves and plebs who are shipped in here. You are a stereotypical Culchie who doesn't like brownies
 

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White Native Europeans with common sense and willing to speak the truth = Far Right Racists
If that is the case we should be proud when SJW brainwashed fools call you racist,the word is used to try and silence the Natives,it is (((Cultural Marxism))) being used by the ((media))) and the (((system))),(((they))) are busy trying to commit Genocide on the European People through mass invasions that will lead to a clash of civilizations between The Christian World V The Islamic World and there hordes,make no mistake about it,we at at war here,everything we see happening is all by design
PATRIOTIC NATIONALISM AND TAKE BACK OUR SOVEREIGNTY BANKS AND BEGIN MASS DEPORTATIONS,AND ALSO PUT ON TRIAL THOSE POLITICIANS WHO SUPPORTED THIS MASS INVASION,THEY HAVE ALL SOLD US OUT AND COMMITTED TREASON,WAR IS UPON US
Thanks to D4 Liberal for bumping your post.

Sadly I feel that most people will not forsee that war until the actual war breaks out.

I forsee Europe going the way of Lebanon ie an overwhelmingly Christian country 100 years ago that decided to open its doors to Muslims from the surrounding Muslim shitholes who wanted to live in a properly run country.
As soon as the Muslims reached a certain percentage of the population they started exerting their identity, the usual problems we are seeing in Europe started appearing, eventually some hothead took up a gun and launched an attack on Muslims resulting in retaliatory attacks leading to a spiral of escalation leading to the long civil war eventually resulting in the Christians being driven out of their own country in large numbers as refugees.
Of course the people you have to really feel sorry for are the Lebanese Christian refugees - they were driven out of their home country by Muslims and fled to mostly Muslim free Europe and now they see the Muslims they fled from arriving by the battalion in their new homeland.
 

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Thanks to D4 Liberal for bumping your post.

Sadly I feel that most people will not forsee that war until the actual war breaks out.

I forsee Europe going the way of Lebanon ie an overwhelmingly Christian country 100 years ago that decided to open its doors to Muslims from the surrounding Muslim shitholes who wanted to live in a properly run country.
As soon as the Muslims reached a certain percentage of the population they started exerting their identity, the usual problems we are seeing in Europe started appearing, eventually some hothead took up a gun and launched an attack on Muslims resulting in retaliatory attacks leading to a spiral of escalation leading to the long civil war eventually resulting in the Christians being driven out of their own country in large numbers as refugees.
Of course the people you have to really feel sorry for are the Lebanese Christian refugees - they were driven out of their home country by Muslims and fled to mostly Muslim free Europe and now they see the Muslims they fled from arriving by the battalion in their new homeland.
Sadly you're deluded. There will be no war and certainly no trimming back on migration. But with good breeding policies we should see a white child boom for the underclass. Queue the middle and upper class plebs on here saying that they are oppressed and want to breed also but can't due to income. Ireland won't ever be majority black but thanks to a few far seeing leaders we are opening our doors to foreigners. After all we have ventured to their shores with the Church and to Australia and America piggy backing off British colonialism.
 

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How about focusing on the real evil son. Why don't you et out the pitchfork/guns and kill off the west brits in this country? That's what a real patriot would do remove the imperialist invader not the brown slaves and plebs who are shipped in here. You are a stereotypical Culchie who doesn't like brownies
I was a member of Oglaigh na heireann and served time for it,all i was doing was extorting Drug Dealers and businesses to make the higher ups happy,you don't have a clue what your talkn about SON,the English are no threat to our Race and Culture,anybody with half a brain can see that the mass invasion of Ireland and Europe is the biggest threat that our Race has faced in known History,LiberalD4'er that name suits you perfect,clown
 

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Thanks to D4 Liberal for bumping your post.

Sadly I feel that most people will not forsee that war until the actual war breaks out.

I forsee Europe going the way of Lebanon ie an overwhelmingly Christian country 100 years ago that decided to open its doors to Muslims from the surrounding Muslim shitholes who wanted to live in a properly run country.
As soon as the Muslims reached a certain percentage of the population they started exerting their identity, the usual problems we are seeing in Europe started appearing, eventually some hothead took up a gun and launched an attack on Muslims resulting in retaliatory attacks leading to a spiral of escalation leading to the long civil war eventually resulting in the Christians being driven out of their own country in large numbers as refugees.
Of course the people you have to really feel sorry for are the Lebanese Christian refugees - they were driven out of their home country by Muslims and fled to mostly Muslim free Europe and now they see the Muslims they fled from arriving by the battalion in their new homeland.
Yes forsure man Christians are getting massacred in the Middle East with the (((controlled media))) being totally silent on the matter + the Whites in South Africa and getting massacred aswell,these are the people we should be taken into Europe,they will assimilate no problem,but know our (((enemy))) has usurped Europe and are pushing this mass invasion into Europe with the Intention of destroying the Native Europeans,anybody that thinks this is all by mistake is crazy like it's common sense to control your borders and preserve you Race and Culture in your Motherland
PATRIOTIC NATIONALISM IS THE ANSWER BROTHER
 

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You must have met some lost souls in those Groups.

I disagree with people calling them all scum + thugs etc- it entrenches them & makes them more determined/dangerous.

The Non Criminal Dissenting Republicans would be the first to tell you that their Groups are full of informers & scum- some of them are decent people who have lost their way.

The main reason for a lot of them hanging on is to spite Gerry Adams after all the Evil he has done to Ireland.

The best thing for Ireland is to convince the dissenting Republicans to use their Energy peacefully against our National Enemy- the Crimebank Styling itself "European Union" which is an ancillary of the Rothschild Ziomatrix.
 

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I was a member of Oglaigh na heireann and served time for it,all i was doing was extorting Drug Dealers and businesses to make the higher ups happy,you don't have a clue what your talkn about SON,the English are no threat to our Race and Culture,anybody with half a brain can see that the mass invasion of Ireland and Europe is the biggest threat that our Race has faced in known History,LiberalD4'er that name suits you perfect,clown
I have some respect for ou now knowing your background. You,re right the English are no threat to our race or culture just like the Europeans aren,t now. But that doesn't stop you believing in colonisation of other nations. Back then when they weren't a threat to our race the blacks were a threat and Europeans decided along with the British to colonise them as a result of this threat they posed. They pose the exact same threat to us today as they did to the Europeans/British back then so what you are advocating SON is a type of colonisation or war with them. Wanting them out is irellevant if the Irish have travelled to their shores before. And we have under the Catholic Church and to America australia which is just another word for the British empire. As to mr background and where I'm from I am dublin through and through have much war of independence blood in. My family and have roots and cousins in the most deprived areas of Dublin. Don't ever mock me for being from D4 and moving up in the world to help these cousins of mine. You are a lower down pleb in the drugs war I have several very high contacts in. Watch. Yourself son.