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Immigration: Enough of this nonsense about an "invasion" please.

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I put the following graphs together because I am so tired of hearing nonsense about:

"...the numbers arriving...",
or how people "... just want to remain majorities in their own lands...",
or, "... You can't expect them to stand by and be replaced by invaders..."

Enough of this imbecility, please. Enough. (Right click and open image in new tab to see graph legend).





By the way, many countries, even countries such as Israel, have demonstrated that even with as high a proportion as 20% Muslim Arab in their population, they have little difficulty assimilating them in their society (and note these Israeli Muslims have developed sophisticated political parties and political representation and occupy positions of acclaim, including on its Supreme Court etc. And that's in the context of the Arab-Israeli conflict that of course impacts there).

Of course the above shouldn't even need saying, but listening to some people on this forum, it seems, maybe you have to.

So, what exactly is the issue? I might add that every single immigrant I ever, ever met here in Ireland had an intent to be a good Irish citizen and seemed to me to have developed a certain faithfulness, love even, for our land, and our way of life.

Sure there might be a couple of isolated incidents, such as the gangs out in Balbriggan or Blanchardstown - but anyone growing up in Dublin in the 1980's and 1990's knows that bored kids congregating in gangs and causing a bit of trouble, has nothing to do with one's country of origin, colour of skin, religion, traditions, and so on. I for one well remember what Balbriggan and Blanchardstown were like in the 1980's and early 90's as regards marauding gangs of kids.

Anyway, the main point is the illustration of the numbers I made. Can people comment on those numbers please with respect to how they equate to an "invasion"? Thanks.
 

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The actual figure is 17%, ....some sources state 20%,
At 17%, it would be closer to 816,000 Foreign Nationals.
20%, would be 960,000.
Over 95% of Naturalized New Irish are from NON-EU Countries. This is No Accident.
......... Ireland already has Access to an EU Labour Market of 500 MILLION, so Why would it need further immigration ?
u seem to be suggesting that the Irish People have No Right to remain the Majority in Their Own Country ??
White 'Christian' Countries are Targeted for Mass Immigration by the Zionist Elite, i.e. Owners of All Central Banks, All Western Media, those behind the EU, & UN.
The Idea is to break down the homogeneity of White 'Christian' Countries ONLY, add many races, create a Low wage 'Federation',
of ONE Identity, ruled by THEIR Banks, Media & Giant Corporations, + END Sovereignty of Nations, & End Borders.
Also, violence, & criminal activity is much higher among the migrant population.
One cannot 'Pick & Choose' one's Ethnic Identity & Ancestry, Nor 'Remove' one's Own Ethnicity & Ancestry.
Also, 80% of FAILED Asylum Seekers are Not Deported. This is No Accident either.
Dilute to Federalize.


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I put the following graphs together because I am so tired of hearing nonsense about:

"...the numbers arriving...",
or how people "... just want to remain majorities in their own lands...",
or, "... You can't expect them to stand by and be replaced by invaders..."

Enough of this imbecility, please. Enough. (Right click and open image in new tab to see graph legend).





By the way, many countries, even countries such as Israel, have demonstrated that even with as high a proportion as 20% Muslim Arab in their population, they have little difficulty assimilating them in their society (and note these Israeli Muslims have developed sophisticated political parties and political representation and occupy positions of acclaim, including on its Supreme Court etc. And that's in the context of the Arab-Israeli conflict that of course impacts there).

Of course the above shouldn't even need saying, but listening to some people on this forum, it seems, maybe you have to.

So, what exactly is the issue? I might add that every single immigrant I ever, ever met here in Ireland had an intent to be a good Irish citizen and seemed to me to have developed a certain faithfulness, love even, for our land, and our way of life.

Sure there might be a couple of isolated incidents, such as the gangs out in Balbriggan or Blanchardstown - but anyone growing up in Dublin in the 1980's and 1990's knows that bored kids congregating in gangs and causing a bit of trouble, has nothing to do with one's country of origin, colour of skin, religion, traditions, and so on. I for one well remember what Balbriggan and Blanchardstown were like in the 1980's and early 90's as regards marauding gangs of kids.

Anyway, the main point is the illustration of the numbers I made. Can people comment on those numbers please with respect to how they equate to an "invasion"? Thanks.

Good of luck with posting any kind of logic here.
 

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I certainly think we need
I put the following graphs together because I am so tired of hearing nonsense about:

"...the numbers arriving...",
or how people "... just want to remain majorities in their own lands...",
or, "... You can't expect them to stand by and be replaced by invaders..."

Enough of this imbecility, please. Enough. (Right click and open image in new tab to see graph legend).





By the way, many countries, even countries such as Israel, have demonstrated that even with as high a proportion as 20% Muslim Arab in their population, they have little difficulty assimilating them in their society (and note these Israeli Muslims have developed sophisticated political parties and political representation and occupy positions of acclaim, including on its Supreme Court etc. And that's in the context of the Arab-Israeli conflict that of course impacts there).

Of course the above shouldn't even need saying, but listening to some people on this forum, it seems, maybe you have to.

So, what exactly is the issue? I might add that every single immigrant I ever, ever met here in Ireland had an intent to be a good Irish citizen and seemed to me to have developed a certain faithfulness, love even, for our land, and our way of life.

Sure there might be a couple of isolated incidents, such as the gangs out in Balbriggan or Blanchardstown - but anyone growing up in Dublin in the 1980's and 1990's knows that bored kids congregating in gangs and causing a bit of trouble, has nothing to do with one's country of origin, colour of skin, religion, traditions, and so on. I for one well remember what Balbriggan and Blanchardstown were like in the 1980's and early 90's as regards marauding gangs of kids.

Anyway, the main point is the illustration of the numbers I made. Can people comment on those numbers please with respect to how they equate to an "invasion"? Thanks.
I certainly think we need to keep a balanced and proportional outlook on immigration.Having said that,being in the EU takes away the right of an Irish government to decide whom it allows into Ireland.The EU freedom of movement is a bad idea.Ireland is a small country with limited space and resources.I don't see a long term benefit to the native Irish having too many foreign cultures and religions coming into Ireland.It doesn't make sense with so many young Irish leaving to encourage too many immigrants.Why not encourage Irish language and culture?Why not train Irish people,develop Ireland,let young Irish have good jobs,careers and opportunities.I would hate to see Ireland lose it's own identity.Ireland is unique and special,lets not ruin it,for the sake of money.I see no reason to celebrate a country being turned into an ethnic ghettoised mess.There isn't anyone that could persuade me,that the situation in England is anything to celebrate.Lets remember that many immigrants and the future generations become very unhappy and alienated living in a land that they never feel part of.Lets put the young Irish people first.Having a policy of Irish homes for the Irish born,concerning social housing,would be a good start.
 

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This reminds me of the Tadhg-like oul' fella on Pat Kenny claiming a million people
have recently immigrated into Ireland....:rolleyes:
 

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This reminds me of the Tadhg-like oul' fella on Pat Kenny claiming a million people
have recently immigrated into Ireland....:rolleyes:
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
17% at least, according the OECD, that's 816,000,
Not Including the Illegals, 30,000...., those in Direct Provision, 5,000.., +2,900 just arrived.., nor the thousands here thru Surinder Singh.
so over 850,000, & heading for 900,000.
 

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Ireland should have an Irish day,when all Irish culture,heritage and language is celebrated.I say this because England doesn't have an England day when all things English are celebrated.Come to think of it there's no British day either,but there are many multicultural days ,when an effort is made to show everything in the garden is rosy.
 

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I put the following graphs together because I am so tired of hearing nonsense about:

"...the numbers arriving...",
or how people "... just want to remain majorities in their own lands...",
or, "... You can't expect them to stand by and be replaced by invaders..."

Enough of this imbecility, please. Enough. (Right click and open image in new tab to see graph legend).





By the way, many countries, even countries such as Israel, have demonstrated that even with as high a proportion as 20% Muslim Arab in their population, they have little difficulty assimilating them in their society (and note these Israeli Muslims have developed sophisticated political parties and political representation and occupy positions of acclaim, including on its Supreme Court etc. And that's in the context of the Arab-Israeli conflict that of course impacts there).

Of course the above shouldn't even need saying, but listening to some people on this forum, it seems, maybe you have to.

So, what exactly is the issue? I might add that every single immigrant I ever, ever met here in Ireland had an intent to be a good Irish citizen and seemed to me to have developed a certain faithfulness, love even, for our land, and our way of life.

Sure there might be a couple of isolated incidents, such as the gangs out in Balbriggan or Blanchardstown - but anyone growing up in Dublin in the 1980's and 1990's knows that bored kids congregating in gangs and causing a bit of trouble, has nothing to do with one's country of origin, colour of skin, religion, traditions, and so on. I for one well remember what Balbriggan and Blanchardstown were like in the 1980's and early 90's as regards marauding gangs of kids.

Anyway, the main point is the illustration of the numbers I made. Can people comment on those numbers please with respect to how they equate to an "invasion"? Thanks.
Eurostat estimates that by 2061, 50% of under 14s will have a migrant background. That prediction was made before our Taoiseach said he plans to increase the population of Ireland by a million by 2040 and our Tánaiste said he wants to double the population of every city outside Dublin.

This is a NEW plantation.
 

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This reminds me of the Tadhg-like oul' fella on Pat Kenny claiming a million people
have recently immigrated into Ireland....:rolleyes:
Probably is close to a million when the official census figure is 773,226 here currently.
Only 20,000 listed themselves as Chinese in the census and half of them had citizenship.
I'd say there is that many Chinese on Parnell Street.
We simply don't know how many illegals are here or how many migrants filled in the census.
And remember, the census figure does not include the children they had here.
 
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Israel is a counterfeit terror state that will manhandle and deport even black Jews strongman style. That it may house minorities doesn't really alter that equation; in Israel, Israeli identity is king.

That's not Ireland. Ireland is where Irish identity is quasi-criminal, permitted only through sporting channels or as a branding exercise and the minority is worshiped and shielded by taboo. The regime here is doing everything in its power to create social distress and inter community antagonisms whilst NGOs who have the institutions in a throathold spread paranoia about "racism" from which they profit from in political terms and monetary terms.

With our permissive EU regime, the dazed state doesn't detect or take into account a significant number of immigrants that flow through the ports so the regime statistics aren't reliable.

It is objectively an invasion but I think it's more on point to speak of the treason of the regime cabal who have capsized the country into a faceless cheap labour/shopping centre zone to the profit of special interests particularly the property sector who are happily promising to house every 'fugeee on tax payers tab whilst actual Irish people die in the streets. That's the state of play at the atm in clear and in unambiguous terms. Hasn't that hunchbacked hobgoblin Harris promised another million? Coveney The Muppet Show reject was lusting for similar numbers? Dumping a million people more into this country is not an invasion is it? Yeah right.
 
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I put the following graphs together because I am so tired of hearing nonsense about:

"...the numbers arriving...",
or how people "... just want to remain majorities in their own lands...",
or, "... You can't expect them to stand by and be replaced by invaders..."

Enough of this imbecility, please. Enough. (Right click and open image in new tab to see graph legend).





By the way, many countries, even countries such as Israel, have demonstrated that even with as high a proportion as 20% Muslim Arab in their population, they have little difficulty assimilating them in their society (and note these Israeli Muslims have developed sophisticated political parties and political representation and occupy positions of acclaim, including on its Supreme Court etc. And that's in the context of the Arab-Israeli conflict that of course impacts there).

Of course the above shouldn't even need saying, but listening to some people on this forum, it seems, maybe you have to.

So, what exactly is the issue? I might add that every single immigrant I ever, ever met here in Ireland had an intent to be a good Irish citizen and seemed to me to have developed a certain faithfulness, love even, for our land, and our way of life.

Sure there might be a couple of isolated incidents, such as the gangs out in Balbriggan or Blanchardstown - but anyone growing up in Dublin in the 1980's and 1990's knows that bored kids congregating in gangs and causing a bit of trouble, has nothing to do with one's country of origin, colour of skin, religion, traditions, and so on. I for one well remember what Balbriggan and Blanchardstown were like in the 1980's and early 90's as regards marauding gangs of kids.

Anyway, the main point is the illustration of the numbers I made. Can people comment on those numbers please with respect to how they equate to an "invasion"? Thanks.
Firstly the numbers are much greater. But even if the numbers were far less than you are putting forward, you are missing the whole point.

It has nothing to do with numbers, it has everything to do with every ethnic peoples or nation's right to assert their exclusivity and their territory as exclusive. Any time this is denied or transgressed whether permission is given or not but especially in the case where the consent of the native is not sought, then that act of even ONE non-native individual immigrating in amongst that native people, constitutes a violation of their sovereignty and is an invasive act, a violation of the integrity and acknowledgment of the right of that people to exist exclusively as they are, and where it exists, their rights and claim to their ancestral territory as exclusively theirs.

Every ethnic people, indigenous group and every historically ancestrally and culturally bonded nation, has a right to assert their human right to protect themselves and ensure their continued existence and wellbeing, which in most cases also automatically includes their right to assert their control to their historic ancestral territory, free from any intrusive and interfering policy which by definition means it is "invasive" and disruptive to that people's continued and historical existence, and for which the policy of immigration for whatever reason from any other non-indigenous group constitutes a violation of the sovereignty of that people and a threat to their daily and long-term living, well-being and existence and is by any definition of the word and any past meaning of the term, an invasion.

If you are tired of that human right, of every ethnic people or historical nation around the whole world to continue to be who they are, to defend and protect who they were and are now in order to find out who they will be in the future and in safety free from outside interference and disruption of their ancestral and cultural existence, life and circumstances, then the opposite of that is that you have no problem with genocide, because genocide is the deconstruction, the picking apart and destruction in whole or in part of any ethnic people or ancestrally and culturally historically bonded group and your position that advocates genocide because the above statement is one of the fundamental bases for human groups to not only survive free from threat and to live according to their ethnicity or ancestrally and culturally bonded group, but to be happy and to live in a spiritual or psychological framework that supports their deep identity from the past and provides spiritual nourishment and wellbeing and a solid grounded launching pad from which they launch into their future, to destroy and lay wreckage to that, is one of the most abhorrant negative things another human can try to do or support - your position is one which says it is "tired" of that and therefore you are in a position ready to deny the basic human right to exist of any ethnicity in the world, but far more than that, your position supports not just genocide, but a manner of genocide that seeks to cut a people's identity, butcher their roots and in so doing, lay waste to countless numbers of people many who will succumb to an increasing alienation and atomisation as multiculturalists tear up their identity, their community and their ties to who they are, and resign them to the masher-machine of history. The British tried this on the Irish leaving us with a legacy of low self-esteem, drink and depression problems, the same happened some of the American Indian tribes leaving many psychologically damaged and picking up the pieces 100s of years later.

Visiting such conditions on any peoples is known as torture and cruelty and is savage..
The term for people who support such atrocity policies is tyrant, murderer and genocidalist
 
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By the way, many countries, even countries such as Israel, have demonstrated that even with as high a proportion as 20% Muslim Arab in their population, they have little difficulty assimilating them in their society
Talking about the Muslim population in a region of the World they have been part of for a millennium is of no relevance to Europe.

The bleeding obvious point that is as plain as day to the dogs in the street is that Muslim immigration has created chaos in multiple Western European countries and thats with their constituting a single digit percent of the population.

There is no Western country with a significant Muslim population that has not experienced these problems.

We can look at the Muslim population of various countries and can see plainly that the higher the Muslim population is the greater the disorder, disharmony and chaos that is created by their presence.

There is no advantage to Europe in importing Muslims. There is only downside which our children and grandchildren will have to endure if this policy continues.
 

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It's all about trend. The Native Irish have a fertility rate less than replacement. More and more the schoolchildren in Ireland are migrants and the old folks are Irish. You don't need a Phd. in mathematics to figure out how that has to end.
 

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Eoin O Broin of Sinn Fein recently estimated that there were 130,000 illegals currently in Ireland. We can safely assume they did not fill out the census.
That number including the figures Una posted would bring the number of foreign born to over a million
WOW ! that would make sense from what is visible on the streets, he must be Delighted !
 

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Ireland should have an Irish day,when all Irish culture,heritage and language is celebrated.I say this because England doesn't have an England day when all things English are celebrated.Come to think of it there's no British day either,but there are many multicultural days ,when an effort is made to show everything in the garden is rosy.

Oh Paddy..... the British have been defeated, 'Colonized' in their Own Country, .......& we're Next !! (if the Zionists have their way).

 
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I put the following graphs together because I am so tired of hearing nonsense about:

"...the numbers arriving...",
or how people "... just want to remain majorities in their own lands...",
or, "... You can't expect them to stand by and be replaced by invaders..."

Enough of this imbecility, please. Enough. (Right click and open image in new tab to see graph legend).

By the way, many countries, even countries such as Israel, have demonstrated that even with as high a proportion as 20% Muslim Arab in their population, they have little difficulty assimilating them in their society (and note these Israeli Muslims have developed sophisticated political parties and political representation and occupy positions of acclaim, including on its Supreme Court etc. And that's in the context of the Arab-Israeli conflict that of course impacts there).

Of course the above shouldn't even need saying, but listening to some people on this forum, it seems, maybe you have to.

So, what exactly is the issue? I might add that every single immigrant I ever, ever met here in Ireland had an intent to be a good Irish citizen and seemed to me to have developed a certain faithfulness, love even, for our land, and our way of life.

Sure there might be a couple of isolated incidents, such as the gangs out in Balbriggan or Blanchardstown - but anyone growing up in Dublin in the 1980's and 1990's knows that bored kids congregating in gangs and causing a bit of trouble, has nothing to do with one's country of origin, colour of skin, religion, traditions, and so on. I for one well remember what Balbriggan and Blanchardstown were like in the 1980's and early 90's as regards marauding gangs of kids.

Anyway, the main point is the illustration of the numbers I made. Can people comment on those numbers please with respect to how they equate to an "invasion"? Thanks.
If we're not experiencing unsustainably high rates of immigration, I would like for you to explain why rents/house prices are through the roof, why we have a shortage of places in schools, have a shortage of social housing and why our hospitals are overcrowded?

As for your comments about Balbriggan and Blanchardstown: these are Africans - Africans are inherently more violent than whites. You need military escorts to travel though most parts of Africa because of the risk of abduction by armed militia and held for ransom, which draws parallels to delivery driver being ambushed and mugged in Tyrrelstown. The locals in the areas have admitted themselves that the level of violence is unprecedented.

If it has nothing to do with skin colour, then why are black people universally over-represented in crime statistics in Western countries? White people proportionately have lowest incarceration rates in the UK



Likewise in america.



This has everything to do with skin colour.