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Lectures on the Works of Freidrich Nietzsche

Discussion in 'Culture & Community' started by Tadhg Gaelach, Nov 9, 2017.

  1. SwordOfStCatherine

    SwordOfStCatherine Legend Battle Royale Political Irish

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    If I had to deal with Irish Catholic Priests growing up I wonder just how real the threat of me turning into a militant atheist would have been. I think it is the namby pamby Priests who are the central cause of atheism in Southern Ireland.
     
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    For me, the metaphysical claims of Catholicism/Christianity don't make any sense. That is the primary reason why I reject it.

    When it comes to metaphysical claims, I'd have a much closer affinity with Buddhism, even though I've no desire to identify as one.
    Anyone in the Christian tradition who came close to my view of things was deemed a heretic.

    Giordano Bruno is one such example. Didn't work out well for him though.
     
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    Fred ended up in the asylum.

    Grangegorman isn't far from Finglas.
     
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    Tadhg Gaelach

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    A chara, could I ask you to keep this thread to Nietzsche. I only mentioned Freud because of that three part BBC series that includes Marx, Nietzsche and Freud. Go raibh míle maith agat.
     
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  5. Plasticpaddy

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    Nietzsche certainly wrote some interesting things,some would find him inspiring.Sadly he became most unwell,I've seen this put Down to syphilis others have said brain cancer,his sister was a national socialist and she let the nazis use his words for their own purposes.He certainly encouraged people to think for themselves,while showing how hard it is to do,just that.I do think he was misanthropic and that he had low self-esteem.I consider him a philosophical hero and respect his efforts.
     
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    Tadhg Gaelach

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    Btw. I'm not suggesting that you shouldn't bring Freud into the discussion, but to do it in relation to Nietzsche. Needless to say, both Nietzsche and Freud were struggling to express the unconscious drives of the human mind so they are deeply related.
     
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    Tadhg Gaelach

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    Complete reading of The Will to Power, which is really notes collected and edited by his sister, but still very interesting. One thing that you have to remember about notes is that they are very often just "what ifs" that the writer is thinking about. They certainly don't imply that the writer actually agrees with them. This process got very distorted in this book, as his sister Elizabeth actually had very little idea of what Nietzsche did or didn't believe. A lot of the "perspectivist" rot that seems to be endorsed in this book is really the opinion of Elizabeth herself. She didn't add in any lines herself, but she edited the text in such a way that perspectivist musings get an easy ride and not subjected to the critique that Nietzsche was well capable of. In short, while he certainly believed that Christianity was one conceptual framework, and that Greek "paganism" was another, and that his own ideas of morality were yet another, he didn't make an argument that there was no objective basis to these frameworks, or that they were simply interchangeable.​

     
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