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LET'S GET THIS (POLITICAL) PARTY STARTED!!!

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No because the death penalty is the ultimate form of justice. It's the best deterrent to ensure there are no repeat offenders. Furthermore, in purely political terms look at it this way. 100% of parties support the abolition of the death penalty. 38% of the people support the death penalty, 38% of the electorate have no party which supports their views bar the NP. If the NP were to do a backflip as you suggest and say they now oppose the death penalty they have lose open access to those 38% of people who voted in favour of retention of the death penalty.
Yes I understand all that. I am not one of the 38% though, so the National Party is not for me.
 
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Yes I understand all that. I am not one of the 38% though, so the National Party is not for me.
Why is this the red line? Because I imagine you agree with the majority of the other policies. Or at least just the prospect of getting NP anti-globalist politicians elected, surely that outweighs an unimplementable policy re capital punishment.
 
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Can you explain the system you wish to put in place more thoroughly? The points you have given us only deal with certain parts of Irish society. If you want to change the system as a whole, you need a much more thorough plan for it. If you just want to change those few things you may as well join another party, but even that I am not sure would be right if you don't understand at least rudimentarily aspects of their general ideology. This whole thing of everyone voting on everything even if they don't at least rudimentarily understand what they are voting for is probably wrong. I recently talked with someone and asked them some basic questions about their general ideology and they eventually broke down in embarrassment and admitted that the posters and general propaganda made it easy for them to understand where the parties were coming from. This is no way to vote, in my opinion.
 

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No- sure ya believe in "sticking togther" trying to launch a rival party to the Irexit Conference attempts at same- 5 mins after the conference :rolleyes: Everybody's laugin at ye
This from the man who a day after the Blanch Mosque deadline passed decides to tell us about the Mosque-busters Facepalm
 

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I think we are putting the cart before the house.

Leave the EU and than bring in a points-based immigration policy for both EU and non-EU citizens.

The key to reducing mass immigration is welfare.
Stop the welfare and 90% won't come.
They aren't coming for the weather, I can tell you that.

I think they'd come anyway, what have they got to loose ??
Most of them are Men, single & would work even on the black market.
There are 30,000 illegals in IRL already with PPS Numbers............(from Outside the EU),
with a Housing Crisis........

The Average Monthly salary in Afghanistan, or Pakistan is under $50,
Average income around the world
 
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Renua is on the way out in my opinion. They're a spent force. If they couldn't win a seat with the resources of Creighton and her backers, then it will not be able to win a seat under the leadership of a nobody unideological culchie councillor and his gaggle of bingo hall activists.
Claire Byrne damaged Renua with one sentence, saying to Lucinda that it was a 'right-wing' party, to which Lucinda said No it wasn't....
The majority being influenced too easily by the lying media.
 

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What is your "point", though? I am not going to stop talking about my political views on a political forum.

In case you were wondering, I started off my education with classical philosophy when I was younger, which lead me to reading some German philosophers and ultimately Anarchist authors such as Proudhon, Bakunin, early Orwell and Chomsky, but eventually saw that the Anarchist system was not realistically applicable. I then was apolitical for some time until I came across a book by Evola which made me critical of both Liberalism and Socialism, but I do not agree with his critique of Catholicism. I hope to read De Maistre in this regard. Closer to home, I was taken by Standish James O'Grady and Arthur Griffith, who had a Monarchist perspective, but I would suggest an altered version of what they propose. I also hope to read a historical text on Eoin O'Duffy.

Those are my inspirations summed up in one paragraph and are the reason as to why I am against the current system. In what way am I causing any offence in opposing the current era of Kali Yuga? The only political change I am bothered to see is the one that raises us out of this asphalt pandaemonium of momentary pleasures and in to a previously lived and superior system.

Ossian, start by reading 'Talmud Unmasked' or 'The international jew' by Henry Ford, or even a summary on amazon to see what we're dealing with on a Massive Scale, those in control, the Elite 1%, who Own our Banks, Media & most Corporations, those behind an incoming cashless society, Zero Hour contracts, & No privacy. In it's infancy during Collins time, now with the technology, & Central Bank Ownership Worldwide, it is immense.
The Absolute Only way is to Awaken & Unite the Public. No matter how it's done. Secretly, or Out there thru a party.
 
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Pim will be holding onto that thing with his cold dead hands. No point going near Identity.

What happened to Identity ?
Renua was supposed to bring out it's policy on Immigration.....
 
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Why is this the red line? Because I imagine you agree with the majority of the other policies. Or at least just the prospect of getting NP anti-globalist politicians elected, surely that outweighs an unimplementable policy re capital punishment.
You can donate to a party, vote for it and even campaign for it without joining it. I personally would be very careful about joining a Party. I do think the NP is best that is out there at the moment but I wouldn't join them because of various issues. I do support the death penalty strongly however it isn't a red line to me.
 

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What I meant is that far from explicitly opposing it and showing their elected representatives that they will be fired fo reven starting such a policy, the populace are silent and a societal current of cheerleading multiculturalism sets in, from years of indoctrination.....and more than that, they must then show their bona fide multicult credentials. So in that state, far from being able or allowed oppose it, they become unwitting welcomers of it.

The people are crying out for permission to say no, it is the fault of Nationalists for not giving them a credible "normal" team to shout for, support and back.

Add to that, the Freemason 'Subversion' Network who are behind many major changes in IRL, the dilution of Catholic schools, they're even behind the Abortion drive.

Irish Freemason's HQ is 40 second walk from Dail, Masonic Knights of Columbanus HQ is 5 minutes walk, as is Opus Dei's Centre at Ely Pace.
8th amendment was jointly organised from the latter two centres.

& same Zionist driven political interference in the UK, France, Germany, etc.
Two Freemasons' lodges operating secretly at Westminster
 
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Think .....Save me Jeebus.... Wow do i get that......:sun_smiley::sun_smiley::sisi1:sisi1:sisi1:sisi1
First would be to Undo 'Family Reunification' or 'CHAIN Migration', (just passed in Nov.2017),
No Skills Required, No Upper Limit in Numbers, can even have a criminal record..& come to Ireland to join their family.
Technically, it means the 100,000 NON EU New Naturalized Irish Citizens, thru Zionist Alan Shatter, could invite an Unlimited number of their family members, the average number is 20, but others go to 70 and over, since end November, so in 2 Years alone, it could have a drastic effect.
Thru a petition & maybe crowd funding legal action.

This is exactly what Trump is trying to stop in the USA.
& designed to destroy the homogeneity of a nation, & create an underclass, under Elite communist rule.
 

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I think they'd come anyway, what have they got to loose ??
Most of them are Men, single & would work even on the black market.
There are 30,000 illegals in IRL already with PPS Numbers............(from Outside the EU),
with a Housing Crisis........

The Average Monthly salary in Afghanistan, or Pakistan is under $50,
Average income around the world
We'll see how long they last with no dole and rent allowance to supplement their cash in hand job.
An overhaul of the welfare state would reduce mass migration dramatically.
 

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We'll see how long they last with no dole and rent allowance to supplement their cash in hand job.
An overhaul of the welfare state would reduce mass migration dramatically.

Oh i agree...., but the 30,000 illegals with PPS Numbers are stuffing themselves, 20 to a house, & will make do, & save. & have no welfare. but they come anyway. creating the low wage society elites want.
 
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Add to that, the Freemason 'Subversion' Network who are behind many major changes in IRL, the dilution of Catholic schools, they're even behind the Abortion drive.

Irish Freemason's HQ is 40 second walk from Dail, Masonic Knights of Columbanus HQ is 5 minutes walk, as is Opus Dei's Centre at Ely Pace.
8th amendment was jointly organised from the latter two centres.

& same Zionist driven political interference in the UK, France, Germany, etc.
Two Freemasons' lodges operating secretly at Westminster
Yes there is a comprehensive tunnel system I think underneath Dublin and the Freemason hall it is rumoured has a tunnel to the Dáil. As for Opus Dei, they would be the arch-enemy of the Freemasons. The Knights of Columbanus are the same, a fully Catholic entity opposed to secular Satanic freemasonry, which always held Roman Catholicism as one of it's greatest enemies. That being said however, like most of the church, Catholic church has been subverted to the new doctrine of globalism and as such is now in the throes of globalist catechism, thus carrying out unwittingly or otherwise a globalist agenda, which whether you believe or not, accords with the nature of Satanistic goals for mankind.
 

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Oh i agree...., but the 30,000 illegals with PPS Numbers are stuffing themselves, 20 to a house, & will make do, & save. & have no welfare. but they come anyway. creating the low wage society elites want.
It needs a multi-pronged solution.
You don't see many go to Poland, Hungary or Portugal mainly because the dole is shit and temporary.
 

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Look at What Our Gov. are signed up to, AGENDA 2030, they have NO CHOICE (Trapped by IMF Debt), Thru the National Planning Framework (yesterday),
They are PAWNS to Global Elite 1%, and ANYONE who Enters Gov. or ANY PARTY or starts a NEW Party will have to do the Same,
UnLess They AWAKEN THE PUBLIC & GET THEIR SUPPORT..... In 10 years or less, a Multicultural, Low wage generation of Renters, cubicle living, cashless, who cycle, & have 5G, = no privacy.

 
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