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Poll: Is Iran A Natural Ally Of The West In The Fight Against Terror?

Is Iran a natural ally in our fight against Wahhabi terrorism?


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I didn't know that the free state gobshites had closed their embassy in Tehran. Was that on an order from government buildings across from the Áras in the Phoenix Park?
FG/Labour closed the Tehran embassy at the same time they closed the Vatican embassy. At the time I think it was claimed it was for financial reasons. But I recall speculation that the closing of the Vatican embassy was a smokescreen to cover the closure of the Tehran embassy. This is given credence IMO by the fact they later reopened the Vatican one but Tehran stayed closed.

I would speculate the real reason they closed Tehran was to curry favor with America. Of course Ireland is probably now losing out on trade deals with Iran.
 

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Are you saying that he doesn't want to see Iran invaded by the Yanks and basically destroyed?
That's correct
Iran will not be invaded who is saying otherwise (I know the Looney left may be saying it but who of substance, who with the authority)
It just a figment of the silly Maxgrim's imagination
 
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Just as was the case with Iraq and Syria, the US public do not want war with Iran, nor does Iran threaten the security of the US or its citizens. But the US people do not matter. They don't get a say.

Who does get a say are the powerful Zionists in the US and Israel who will once again use a weak president and a Congress and a media they own in order to push for yet another war against a country that is undeserving of attack.

There will be death and destruction on a massive scale. The whole Middle East will be destabilised further most likely sending millions more refugees to Europe.

The fighting will be carried out by the sons and daughters of ordinary Americans weary from Israel's previous wars that Americans fought. I doubt even a handful of whom will be Jewish.

The US too is occupied territory, just like the West Bank and Gaza, only most Americans don't even know it!
 

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Just as was the case with Iraq and Syria, the US public do not want war with Iran, nor does Iran threaten the security of the US or its citizens. But the US people do not matter. They don't get a say.

Who does get a say are the powerful Zionists in the US and Israel who will once again use a weak president and a Congress and a media they own in order to push for yet another war against a country that is undeserving of attack.

There will be death and destruction on a massive scale. The whole Middle East will be destabilised further most likely sending millions more refugees to Europe.

The fighting will be carried out by the sons and daughters of ordinary Americans weary from Israel's previous wars that Americans fought. I doubt even a handful of whom will be Jewish.

The US too is occupied territory, just like the West Bank and Gaza, only most Americans don't even know it!
Complete fantasyland
Delusional notions
Flight of fancy


Lies in other words
 

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Yahoo is always with the belligerent language. There's really no change there. And I don't see a hot war with Iran. Iran is strong, well armed, modern, tough. It isn't the soft target it was 2006, it's an entirely different proposition and America only goes after soft targets.

Trump would have to be loonier than Bush era neocons to attack them and he isn't that.

Trump is doing this brinkmanship thing to tee up for a deal, presumably on ballistic missiles. Whether the Iranians will indulge this silliness is anyone's guess.
 

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Just as was the case with Iraq and Syria, the US public do not want war with Iran, nor does Iran threaten the security of the US or its citizens. But the US people do not matter. They don't get a say.

Who does get a say are the powerful Zionists in the US and Israel who will once again use a weak president and a Congress and a media they own in order to push for yet another war against a country that is undeserving of attack.

There will be death and destruction on a massive scale. The whole Middle East will be destabilised further most likely sending millions more refugees to Europe.

The fighting will be carried out by the sons and daughters of ordinary Americans weary from Israel's previous wars that Americans fought. I doubt even a handful of whom will be Jewish.

The US too is occupied territory, just like the West Bank and Gaza, only most Americans don't even know it!
Yes the sons and daughters of the American poor will have to die for the zionists. And if anyone comments on it, he will be accused of antisemitism and persecuted for it.
 
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Yahoo is always with the belligerent language. There's really no change there. And I don't see a hot war with Iran. Iran is strong, well armed, modern, tough. It isn't the soft target it was 2006, it's an entirely different proposition and America only goes after soft targets.

Trump would have to be loonier than Bush era neocons to attack them and he isn't that.

Trump is doing this brinkmanship thing to tee up for a deal, presumably on ballistic missiles. Whether the Iranians will indulge this silliness is anyone's guess.
I hope you're right TPM.
 

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The Iranians themselves are quite happy. They're more concerned about the Kurd referendum business than anything else and everyone whom aren't Kurds nor Israelis are uniting against that. I get the impression the Iranians will enjoy Trump further isolating himself from the world if he tries to ditch the deal.


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Iraqi Kurdistan the fly to regional spiders Turkey, Iraq, Iran

Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdogan just visited Tehran and met with President Hassan Rouhani and Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei.

That’s a major geopolitical move by any standards. Iran and Turkey are both part of the Astana negotiations aimed at effecting closure in Syria. Both are regarded by Beijing as key nodes in its Belt and Road Initiative (BRI). Both are observers – and future full members – of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO). Both may soon be incorporated into the BRICS-Plus concept. Both are key nodes in Eurasian integration.

Inevitably, though, the meeting was eclipsed by the September 25 referendum called by the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) in Iraq.

At the Erdogan-Rouhani joint appearance, the two seemed fully in synch.

Erdogan: “There is no country other than Israel that recognizes it. A referendum that was conducted by sitting side by side with Mossad has no legitimacy.”

Rouhani: “Turkey, Iran and Iraq have no choice but to take serious and necessary measures to protect their strategic goals in the region, and the wrong decisions made by some of the leaders of this region must be compensated for by them.”

Read On: Iraqi Kurdistan the fly to regional spiders Turkey, Iraq, Iran
 

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Yes the sons and daughters of the American poor will have to die for the zionists. And if anyone comments on it, he will be accused of antisemitism and persecuted for it.
More nonsense
There will be no war calm down
You are an anti Jew but how exactly will you be persecuted
 

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I'm not sure about the cash to the Hamas people is well spent. But the support Iran has given to several national liberation movements against the Empire of Chaos, the homicidal Israeli LARPer state and their various petrol state proxies....well, what's not to love about Iran, eh? :wave:
 
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Trump is going against the advice of his Generals and security services and against the wishes of the EU, Russia, China and basically the whole world by unilaterally pulling the US out of the Iran nuclear deal.

Only one country supports this, the same country that has been trying to get the US to attack Iran for 25 years: Israel.

But the rest of the signatories to the deal will remain in, and keep it going:

Austria says JCPOA (Iran deal) will remain even if US withdraws
 

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It's a win-win whatever America does.

The Empire of Chaos getting further isolated from the world which is what would happen if they pulled it, is a very good thing. Sympathy would be with the Iranians and it would encourage Euraasian integration, a critical step if the world is ever to be placed on a more stable footing.

So Trump can do what he likes really.
 
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It's a win-win whatever America does.

The Empire of Chaos getting further isolated from the world which is what would happen if they pulled it, is a very good thing. Sympathy would be with the Iranians and it would encourage Euraasian integration, a critical step if the world is ever to be placed on a more stable footing.

So Trump can do what he likes really.
I can see your point of view here TPM, but are you sure Iran won't be attacked?

I'm not I must say. I can see Trump sanctioning the US military to begin targeting Iranian troops in Iraq and Syria, if not attacking Iran itself.