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Saudi National Saad Hariri Resigns As Lebanese PM During Speech In Saudi Arabia.

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    Saudi national Saad Hariri made a surprise resignation speech from Saudi Arabia yesterday.

    The Lebanese prime minister, also a Lebanese national surprisingly used the terrorist state of Saudi Arabia, a key ally of the terrorist state of Israel, as the base from which to make his live televised speech.

    Both the Israeli and Saudi governments support Al Qaeda and ISIS, and perceive Hezbollah, Syria and Iran as their greatest enemies.

    The Saudi: Hariri claimed he feared for his life. His own father, also a Saudi national was assassinated in 2005 in a terrorist attack that his eminence: Hassan Nasrallah blamed on Israel. Israel still deny the charge.

    An aide to Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Khameni, Hussein Sheikh al-Islam said: Hariri's resignation was done with planning by Donald Trump, the president of America, and Mohammed bin Salman, the crown prince of Saudi Arabia.

    Iran called the resignation a US, Saudi, Zionist plot designed to create yet more instability in the region.

    Full story here:

    PressTV-Hariri resignation, US-Saudi-Zionist plot: Iran

    Iran has vehemently rejected remarks by Saad Hariri, who has stepped down as Lebanon’s Prime Minister, saying his resignation and rehashing of the “unfounded and baseless” allegations regularly leveled by the Zionists, Saudis and the US are another scenario to create new tensions in Lebanon and elsewhere in the Middle East.

    Iranian Foreign Ministry Spokesman Bahram Qassemi made the remarks on Saturday, a few hours after the announcement of Hariri’s resignation in Saudi Arabia, in which he made allegations against Iran and Lebanon's Resistance Movement Hezbollah.

    “The sudden resignation of Mr. Hariri and its announcement in another country are not only regrettable and astonishing, but also indicative of him playing in a court that the ill-wishers in the region have laid out,” he said.

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    Wise, calming words from Nasrallah:

    Hezbollah leader Nasrallah calls for calm in first address since PM Hariri’s resignation

    "All eyes in Lebanon and the wider Middle East have just been on Hezbollah leader Sayyid Hassan Nasrallah as he made his first speech since yesterday’s shock resignation of former Lebanese Prime Minister Saad Hariri.

    Nasrallah’s speech urged calm among all Lebanese, including members of Hariri’s Future Movement and stated that a return to conflict and sectarian violence is no way to respond to the resignation of the Prime Minister. Nasrallah also encouraged Lebanese to avoid riots and street protests as this would only serve to create a divisive atmosphere.

    From any objective point of view, Nasrallah’s calming speech calling for the unity of Lebanon behind the principles of peace and constitutionality, was far more statesmanlike than the hurried rambling resignation speech made by Hariri in Saudi Arabia, live on Saudi state-run Al Arabiya TV.

    Sayyid Hassan Nasrallah began has remarks by stating that no one knows what happened to the former Lebanese Prime Minister during his visit to Saudi, nor why he was not able or not allowed to come to Lebanon and deliver a proper resignation speech there.

    He then remarked that during his resignation speech, Hariri used terminology that was not Lebanese but Saudi, thereby indicating that the author of the speech was likely a Saudi political writer rather than Hariri or anyone from Lebanon. Furthermore, he stated that the resignation was a Saudi decision, dictated by Saudi leaders and that it was not Hariri’s intent nor his decision to resign.

    The Hezbollah leader then stated that “we did not want this resignation to happen. Generally speaking things were going okey”. He spoke of an attitude in the Lebanese coalition government in which Hezbollah has two cabinet ministers, as one that is generally congenial and effective.

    Nasrallah then said that it is necessary to find out why the Saudis insisted on Hariri’s resignation. He proffered three theories

    1. Hariri may have had good relations, including financial dealings and/or personal friendships with some of the Saudis who were arrested yesterday in a great purge of the Saudi elite, orchestrated by Crown Prince Muhammad Bin Salman.

    This theory is in line with one which I explored, which hypothesises that Hariri’s forced resignation was more to do with Saudi’s internal politics than with Lebanon itself.

    Nasrallah also stated that it is important not to over emphasise the Israeli connection to the resignation because ultimately Israel answers not to Riyadh but to Washington. He stated that Israel is always contemplating further attacks, but that Israel is only prepared to commit itself to wars that are short and inexpensive. Israel, Nasrallah said, is well aware that any attack on Lebanon would be long, costly and ultimately fruitless and that because of this, many in Israel are thinking twice.

    This again, speaks to the fact that the Hariri resignation has more to do with an atmospherics of hopelessness on the part of Saudi and Israel than one of confidence, as both states realise that their favoured Takfiri forces in Syria have lost and that Hezbollah, Syria and Iran are on the winning side.

    2. Nasrallah suggested another theory for Saudi’s forcing of Hariri’s hand, stating that perhaps they were disappointed that things were generally calm in Lebanon and that Hariri was being cooperative with his coalition partners, including Hezbollah.

    Because of this, perhaps Saudi wanted a more loyal, more extreme puppet PM in Lebanon and effectively removed Hariri because they felt he was unsatisfactory.

    3. Hezbollah’s leader suggested that as many are saying, Saudi plans to attack Lebanon but Nasrallah rhetorically asked, how? With Saudi’s proxies on the verge of total defeat in Syria, it would be difficult for Saudi to directly attack Lebanon unless via the sea or through occupied Palestine. Nasrallah reached the conclusion that both of these options are deeply unrealistic.

    Nasrallah continued, asking to verify the whereabouts of Hariri who has not been seen in public since his televised resignation from the Saudi capital.

    He then said that all Lebanese must abstain from political escalation and that peace and security must remain the priority. Because proper constitutional mechanisms are in place, there is no cause for concern and that Lebanese should allow President Michel Aoun to execute his duties in peace until a new Prime Minister can be appointed.

    Nasrallah stated that the Lebanese authorities have assured the world that there are no credible threats against the former Prime Minister’s life and that rumours to the contrary are all part of a deception campaign from Saudi Arabia."
     
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    Lebanon was a lovely, modern country in the sixties.

    First the PLO, and then the Syrians completely ruined Lebanon.

    Now Iran has it's eye on it through their proxy thugs, Hezbollah.

    Their colonialist dream of a Shia corridor from Tehran to the Mediterranean is on track
    as we speak.

    Of course, the fact that Iran wants to destroy Israel ( and the US ) is the main reason why
    they are so popular with the many anti Semitic yahoos on this thread.:cool:
     
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    The thug Nasrallah fucks up Lebanon- no doubt. Time to get a car bomb ready for him ...
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    A very strange case - but it's clear that Hariri has some sort of corrupt agenda going. He certainly never believed that Hezbollah or Iran intended him any harm. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Al Saud gangster family gave him a few million to do this. One thing's for sure is that the vast majority of the people of Lebanon will see thought this monkey business for what it is.
     
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    Saud itself is in the middle of some kind of power struggle where allegedly AQ patrons are being ousted and a more moderate pro-Trump regime is consolidating itself.

    I'll believe it when I see it I suppose.
     
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    Bullshit
    His father was assanated
    Now you want him assanated?
    You anti jew haters don't give a flying fuck
     
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    Do you think the Jews had something to do with this? You might be right.
     
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    Odd that the BBC never mentioned that Hariri is a Saudi national, or that Hezbollah blames Israel for his father's assassination, providing evidence too.

    Nah, it's the BBC :rolleyes:

    Saudis 'forced Lebanese PM to quit'
     
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    This guy came across a cable sent from Jerusalem to Israeli diplomats which instructed them to lobby for the Saudis/Hariri and against Hezbollah. All the info is contained in this Twitter thread:




    I don't know about the rest of you but I'm very worried about this whole thing, the Lebanese PM resigning in Saudi Arabia, and him and the Saudis blaming Hezbollah and Iran.

    It strikes me as the start of something bad, maybe real bad.
     
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    Saudi Arabia says Lebanon has declared war on it


    BEIRUT (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia accused Lebanon on Monday of declaring war against it because of aggression by the Iran-backed Lebanese Shi‘ite group Hezbollah, a dramatic escalation of a crisis threatening to destabilize the tiny Arab country.

    Saudi Arabia says Lebanon declares war, deepening crisis
     
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    This is serious shit! These Saudi bastards could yet cause carnage in the region.

    Here, Vijay Prashad says he thinks the Saudi prince is angling to get Israel into a war with Hezbollah, but that the Israelis may be put off because Hezbollah - who beat the Zionists in 2006 - are now very strong militarily.

    He says the Saudis are sick because they've lost influence in Iraq, their joint US/Israeli/EU regime change war in Syria has failed and they're not getting anywhere in Yemen.

    No doubt they're sick that their evil child ISIS is near defeat too.

    Imagine for a minute how fucking crazy it is that the US and EU support these animals!

     
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