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The Silent Majority - Million of Pro Spanish Catalans protests on the streets

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It's a shame that Sinn Feins allies are on the wrong side of history.

How can anyone side with Barcelona over Real Madrid or Kerry/Cork over Dublin?

I am pro the capital censoring and crushing any descent from outside the Capital. Down with the Free Star State.
 

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My sympathies would certainly be with the Spanish patriots. However I think Madrid handled the whole thing quite badly. They should've taken a leaf out of Canada's handling of Quebec and treated the situation with much more delicacy.
 
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My sympathies would certainly be with the Spanish patriots. However I think Madrid handled the whole thing quite badly. They should've taken a leaf out of Canada's handling of Quebec and treated the situation with much more delicacy.
They are certainly managing things much better now, people power is definitely showing itself as a real force now, makes those silly independence protests look like child play.
 
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It's a shame that Sinn Feins allies are on the wrong side of history.

How can anyone side with Barcelona over Real Madrid or Kerry/Cork over Dublin?

I am pro the capital censoring and crushing any descent from outside the Capital. Down with the Free Star State.
Sinn Fein is very confused, they do not know who their natural supporters are anymore.

This is what happens when you allow thugs to take up politics.
 

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It's lose lose for Goldman Popcorn

Everbody's laughin at them. Lol upside

How many of those "Hispanics" were Bussed in?
 

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Spain is really an artificial construction of several different kingdoms. The Basque Country should never have been part of Spain. The Kingdoms of Aragon and Castile came together about 500 years ago through marriage, but it was always a very tense relationship. Now it seems the people of Aragon want their independence back. This could have been avoided if the people of Castile had been able to stop looking at Aragon as their colony - but they never could.
 

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Spain is really an artificial construction of several different kingdoms. The Basque Country should never have been part of Spain. The Kingdoms of Aragon and Castile came together about 500 years ago through marriage, but it was always a very tense relationship. Now it seems the people of Aragon want their independence back. This could have been avoided if the people of Castile had been able to stop looking at Aragon as their colony - but they never could.
So you're an advocate of the old Duchy system in the Catholic church?

I am more pro natural borders - Spains borders are natural as they are sea borders barring Portugal Spain has got it mostly right and it took the monarchic Catholic system to achieve that in the middle ages to seize it from 800 years of Muslim control.

Ireland has natural borders - the border on the north for example is from imperialism and unnatural colonialism.
 

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So you're an advocate of the old Duchy system in the Catholic church?

I am more pro natural borders - Spains borders are natural as they are sea borders barring Portugal Spain has got it mostly right and it took the monarchic Catholic system to achieve that in the middle ages to seize it from 800 years of Muslim control.

Ireland has natural borders - the border on the north for example is from imperialism and unnatural colonialism.

The very fact that Portugal exists shows that Spain is not natural. And no sane person would claim that the Basque Country should be part of Spain.
 

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If you think of what happened as soon as Castile and Aragon became united - an orgy of imperialist violence that destroyed millions of people all over Europe and created a Holocaust in South America - then you know that this unity was born in evil and should never have been. Likewise, we would have been spared the unspeakable Holocaust of the British Empire if Ireland, Scotland and Wales had managed to resist invasion.
 

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I just notice that the Spanish rallies seem to attract more middle-aged, well-groomed and well-dressed folk whilst the Catalan rallies seem to attract student types with atrocious haircuts and scruffy clothes.

Spain needs to catch up on the propaganda stakes. Referendum day was handled abysmally.
I do believe there are a lot more Spanish unionist in Cataluña then the press and media recognise.
 

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In order to accept the Catalan cause, you would have to accept that Spain, which has been a Nation for 500 years) is an artificial Statelet.
Thats a huge leap.


I personally would not like to live in an Independent Cataluña as it's political leadership are basically Podemos libtard types. It would be run like Berkeley University.
 

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In order to accept the Catalan cause, you would have to accept that Spain, which has been a Nation for 500 years) is an artificial Statelet.
Thats a huge leap.


I personally would not like to live in an Independent Cataluña as it's political leadership are basically Podemos libtard types. It would be run like Berkeley University.

Nobody could suggest that the Basque Country is a natural part of Spain. For that reason alone you'd have to accept that Spain is an artificial state - just like the so called "UK."
 

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Nobody could suggest that the Basque Country is a natural part of Spain. For that reason talone you'd have to accept that Spain is an artificial state - just like the so called "UK."
The world changes. 150 years ago Alaska was part of Russia.
Spain has been a Nation for 500 years.
Imagine if we got a UI, and Unionists in North-East wanted to secede. Would we let them?
 

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The world changes. 150 years ago Alaska was part of Russia.
Spain has been a Nation for 500 years.
Imagine if we got a UI, and Unionists in North-East wanted to secede. Would we let them?

Of course not, but Ireland has been a nation for a lot longer than 500 years. And really Spain has never been a nation, as it includes the Basques, who don't even speak an Indo-European language - they are completely different to the Spainish - which the Catalans probably aren't.