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The treason of Irish women

Discussion in 'Immigration & Refugees' started by Myles O'Reilly, Oct 29, 2017.

  1. Antóin Mac Comháin

    Antóin Mac Comháin Respected Member

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    'The Irish are the blacks of Europe, Dubliners are the blacks of Ireland, and northsiders are the blacks of Dublin.' ?

    I think those lines were 'borrowed' by Doyle from one of his students, who came from an area where most of the poor Gaelic-speakers who didn't emigrate to Glasgow, Liverpool or elsewhere during the 1840's settled, and the explanation for the empathy with Africans and Blacks, is far more likely to have come directly from the folk memory of An Gorta Mór, The Great Hunger, and our history as an almost colonized nation. I say almost, as to paraphrase Pearse, 'Irish nationality is an ancient spiritual tradition, and the Irish nation can not die as long as that tradition lives in the heart of one faithful man or woman, and only when the last repositor of the Gaelic tradition, the last unconquered Gael dies, will the Irish nation be no more.'

    “The Jim Larkin of India.”

    ''I remember vividly meeting Connolly on several occasions as I was regularly invited to their Citizen Army meetings...More than any of the leaders of the uprising it was Connolly who inspired me. I resolved that as soon as I returned to India I would give a graphic account of these struggles to inspire our own people...With the fervour inspired by the revolutionaries still fresh in my mind, I determined to return to India and take an active part in the political movement to secure the independence of my country.'' - Varahagiri Venkata Giri

    At the time Giri came to power in India in 1969, the Irish Independent wrote that he was “a founder of the Indian Labour Movement, and is known to many as the Jim Larkin of India.” Giri, the paper noted, was a student at University College Dublin during the Irish revolutionary period, “taking his LLB and becoming a barrister, before being deported by the British.”

    Of his time in Ireland, we can learn much from his memoir My Life and Times, which was published in 1976. In Dublin, Giri was active within the Dublin India Society, which drew support from the dozens of Indian students in the Irish capital. In the aftermath of the struggle of Indians in South Africa for equal rights in 1914, his society in Dublin prepared a pamphlet entitled The South African Horrors, which was well received. The cause of the Indian people received sympathetic coverage in Irish nationalist newspapers, including Arthur Griffith’s Sinn Féin, as well as The Irish Volunteer.

    Engagements between Irish nationalists and Indian nationalists can be found in the Bureau of Military History statements, which recorded the memoirs of participants in the 1913-21 period. A particularly intriguing story of international espionage and plotting is contained in the witness statement of Robert Brennan, a senior figure in the Sinn Féin Press Bureau during the War of Independence. He recalled being introduced to two Indian men here, who presented him with a most interesting proposal:

    ''...They were then to meet jointly and set up a Provisional Government for India and, thereafter, carry on on Sinn Fein lines. Our part was to send one or two advisers who would, behind the scenes, guide the movement.

    It was necessary that these advisers should get to India as soon as possible before the day set for the Conventions. The other plan of Bomanji’s was to prepare for a guerilla war against the British. For this purpose, he needed a number of Irish guerilla leaders, twenty or thirty to start off with. They would ostensibly be employed in the chain stores owned by Mr. A. but their real work would be to train companies of selected men in the science of guerilla warfare...''

    In subsequent decades, there remained strong sympathy for India in Irish nationalist circles, which was reflected in the pages of newspapers like An Phoblacht in the 1930s... The following advertisement frequently appeared in An Phoblacht during the period, encouraging people to support the Indian Store on Dame Street:


    - “The Jim Larkin of India.” | Come Here To Me!

    The 1916 Easter Rising And The Emancipation Of Racially Subaltern Groups

    One topic which has been absent in the centenary commemoration of the 1916 Easter Rising is the issue of race and the fight against racism.

    How did the 1916 Rising relate to the global fight against racism and the rights of racially subaltern groups? Some of the insurgents globally stood out in this struggle, Roger Casement in particular.

    Kwame Nkrumah, the President of Ghana, the first independent country in Africa, expressed the debt owed to Casement by all "those who have fought for African freedom".

    Most remarkably by 1916 Roger Casement stated that : "I had come to look upon myself as an African." (Brief to Counsel, 8 June 1916). The extraordinary fact that in 1916 Casement had looked upon himself as an African and not just some Irishman clearly shows that he identified with the subaltern globally, not just locally in Ireland and that his project transcended racial boundaries.

    The 1916 Easter Rising also influenced movements working for the emancipation of subordinate racial groups elsewhere in the world. If Frederick Douglass and W.E. Du Bois were already very much interested in the Irish struggle, the 1916 rising provided the major ideological mainspring for Marcus Garvey’s radical political transformation. The Easter Rising had more impact on the Universal Negro Improvement Association than the struggles against imperialism in India, China and Egypt. (see : "Negro Sinn Féiners and Black Fenians : 'Heroic Ireland' and the Black Nationalist Imagination", in : Bruce Nelson (2012), Irish Nationalists and the Making of the Irish Race, NJ : Princeton University Press, 181-211).

    In 1919, the Military Intelligence Division of the U.S. Justice Department reported that:

    all the Colored speakers in Harlem are using the Irish question in their discussions”; another government agency warned that “all these negro associations are joining hands with the Irish Sinn Feiners” and with “Hindu, Egyptians, Japanese and Mexicans. (ibid, 184)

    Between 1919 and 1922, the African Blood Brotherhood for African Liberation and Redemption published a monthly journal, The Crusader. This is what The Crusader had to say in 1919 about the 1916 Rising:

    ''The Irish fight for liberty is the greatest Epic of Modern History. It is a struggle that should have the sympathy and active support of every lover of liberty – of every member of an oppressed group. The Negro in particular should be interested in the Irish struggle, for while it is patent that Ireland can never escape from the menace of ‘the overshadowing empire’ so long as England is able to maintain her grip on the riches and manpower of India and Africa it is also clear that those suffering together under the heel of British imperialism must learn to CO-ORDINATE THEIR EFFORTS before they can HOPE TO BE FREE." (Cathy Bergin (2016), ‘Unrest among the Negroes’: the African Blood Brotherhood and the politics of resistance, Race & Class, 57:3, 51-53). - The 1916 Easter Rising And The Emancipation Of Racially Subaltern ...

    Apart from Roger Casement who 'looked upon himself as an African', it appears that it was the Africans who 'identified' with the Irish, or rather, as VV Giri the former President of India says, took inspiration directly from Irish revolutionaries, almost half a century before Haile Sellasie's address to the United Nations in 1963, where he spoke about the survival of the human race being dependent on the need to transcend racial boundaries:

    'When I spoke at Geneva in 1936, there was no precedent for a head of state addressing the League of Nations. I am neither the first, nor will I be the last head of state to address the United Nations, but only I have addressed both the League and this Organization in this capacity. The problems which confront us today are, equally, unprecedented. They have no counterparts in human experience. Men search the pages of history for solutions, for precedents, but there are none. This, then, is the ultimate challenge. Where are we to look for our survival, for the answers to the questions which have never before been posed?'

    As Liam O'Ruairc suggests in that article about the 1916 Rising, the United Irishmen had a pill for the disease of Sectarianism: 'The connection between Irish republicanism and the struggle of racially subaltern groups goes back as far as the United Irishmen. Luke Gibbons has described how the United Irishmen's belief in universal emancipation expressed itself in support for subaltern racial groups. He mentions the interesting fact that in 1789, the Iroquois Amerindian nation nominated as honorary chief Lord Edward Fitzgerald, future leader of the 1798 rebellion. The contribution of the 1916 Easter Rising to the struggles for the emancipation of racially subaltern groups continued down the years.'
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  2. Atlantean Irish

    Atlantean Irish Member Political Irish

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    If you note, I was not talking at all about the origin or source of those lines, where the lines came. That was not my point at all. Hence also the paraphrase of those lines into (The Irish are the Blacks of Europe) boiling it down into what their essential use is by globalists and open-border multicultists when using that device as an identity replacer/disruptor manipulation tool.

    I mentioned how that is used as an idea NOW as a psychological tool in a contemporary film to manipulate modern audiences into the dispossession of their actual real ethnic and cultural identity as Western Europeans with that of Black and/or Black African. There is no disputing the fact of how that thematic device is being used as a manipulative identity replacement tool now, to make the Irish more amenable to mass-immigration and to try to shut down their opposition to mass-immigration and why they have a right to assert their exclusive right to the territorial rights and resources of their own island for which their ancestors sacrificed exclusively for them and not for the descendants of any other ethnic people.

    This describes ONLY how that sentiment is used as an argument for mass-immigration now, in the modern sense of open-borders madness. I am not talking about it's origins or any other historical ideas, which btw is an incorrect association as you do not contextualise. I do not know if you are trying to make an argument as to why such a statement used as a modern propaganda device is true. But if so, the context and comparison with modern times and mass-immigration is not mentioned by you, the context of their time has been completely obliterated rendering any such comparison between their sentiment and relevance or advocacy of modern multiculturalism - as invalid.
    In many respects in the same way open-borders try to use Connolly saying he was an open-borders advocate but without the context of his time. Connolly the socialist would never have supported a policy ('multiculturalism' - that ends up enslaving the workers and peoples of the world) he would never have supported the idea of a capitalist-driven open-borders scam camouflaged as "humanitarian" which has successfully deceived the useful idiots.

    It is all well and good to be among "the other" in their native land espousing all sorts of grandiose bon homie and being in a position of luxury to be able to identify with "the other" when the other is not flooding the land of your ancestors, placing a real and direct impact on your lifestyle and very survival, threatening your very ancestral and cultural heritage and identity and placing a massive resource burden on your people, committing crimes of rape and murder on your people, in a modern contrived, socially engineered policy equivalent to British imperialism, which today is known as globalism.

    Those who were the minority of their time going against British imperialism would have been able to see through the mass-propaganda of today's imperialism and would also have been against globalism and open-borders recognising it as a system of exploitation and the final push to subdue humanity by first dealing with Europeans who pose the greatest resistant bulwark against elitist global rule, when/if Europeans are eliminated/subdued, than all other peoples don't stand a chance.
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  3. Antóin Mac Comháin

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    O'Sullivan Bere [​IMG] One Royal Governor of Jamaica especially liked ordering 1000 Irish slave women as concubines for shagging and breeding purposes besides labour. In addition, many of the remaining white and mixed 'redlegs' in the Carribbean still speak with semi-preserved Irish diction and accents..

    ‘Over 100,000 young childern,who were orphans or had been taken from their catholic parents were sent abroad into slavery in the West Indies, Virgina and New England’ - Dr. Thomas Addis Emmet, Ireland under English Rule:A Plea For The Plaintiff

    ‘The mulatto drivers enjoyed using the whip on whites.It gave them a sense of power and was also a protest against their white sires.White women in particular were singled out for the punishment in the fields. Sometimes to satisfy a perverted craving, the mulatto drivers forced the women to strip naked before commencing the flogging and then forced them to continue working all day under the blistering sun..While the women were weeding in the fields in that condition,the drivers often satisfied their lust by taking them from the rear. - Sean O’Callaghan, To Hell or Barbadoes

    I'm explaining where the idea came from. It didn't come from the Intelligentsia. It came from the very people you are trying to save from themselves.

    Costello - A Page of History

    'Your school curriculum is teaching bullshit,

    The history of Africa is the one we more relate to,

    Young girls from the ages 10-14 were sent to be as sex slaves in the Caribbean.'

    I'm not trying to bore you with rap music, but the rap artist Costello is from the same side of Dublin that Doyles student came from, and here we have the same thought process. He even mocks the Irish school curriculum, which suggests that they haven't been taught this history in their schools. I went to a Gaelic speaking school, and I didn't even learn about the Irish slave trade in school. Nobody is manipulating them or trying to dispossess them of their identity as Western Europeans.

    If anything they are the ones manipulating the Intelligentsia.

    cathalbrugha [​IMG] Dominick Street Flats, Meath Street, Pimlico, Hardwicke Street, Cumberland Street, Cuffe Street, Digges Lane, York Street & the Iveagh Trust.. They were the Citizen Army.

    Connolly lived less than a mile away from that Indian shop on Dame Street, and the book referred to in that link, An Oral History of Dublin Tenement Life by Kevin Kearns contains a number stories by Dubliners about the Blacks and Jews who lived among them:

    'These people who have lived there all their lives, they have no fault to find with the neighbourhood. All their friends live around. They would not live at the other side of the city if you paid them to do so' - The Irish Press 1936.

    'They were extraordinarily happy for people who were so savagely poor. They had a community spirit and a code amongst themselves. The knew that their place was on the the bottom of the ladder and they didn't seem to have any great ambitions to go up to the middle class.. they were quite happy to stay. They loved this thing, particularly the women, sitting on the steps of the tenements there on a summers day chatting away and the children running around. They liked that. That was the extraordinary thing, they were fulfilled' Paddy Casey - Police Officer reflecting on his time on the beat in the inner city in the 1930s.

    'When they reached sixth class we used to give them some sort of, you know sex education. Well not sex education, but we'd tell them were babies came from. .. Now a little black child appeared in the school, she was coloured. A woman came in and she had this little black child, her grandchild, and she explained the black child to me by saying, 'Twas a little mistake of me daughters.' Oh she was lovely. Black. Black, black hair and she was a lovely child. And now this is how naive I was when I went there first because I couldn't get over hearing the Dublin accent coming out of the child. And I remember when she was making her First Communion and they qeued up to see her because she was different. Oh no discrimination, they loved her.' - Peggy Pigott a teacher who spent over 40 years working and living in the inner city in Rutland Street School.

    'Dublin's tenement communities were always noted for their strong community spirit and tradition of sharing and caring for one another. There existed a communal system of mutual dependency in which neighbours routinely shared food, clothing, fuel, cared for the sick, consoled the suffering, assisted evictees, took in orphans, and waked the dead. The old, the infirm, the blind, the insane, the dispossessed - all were part of the community. Even the dossers, or knockabouts, who would sleep rough in the tenement hallways would be given a cup of tea and a crust of bread by the tenants. It was a sort of unwritten moral code of the tenements that neighbours look after one another in times of need. It was simply their nature to be caring and charitable' - Father Michael Reid
  4. Liberal D4'er

    Liberal D4'er Member Political Irish

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    I should have known you'd side with Neanderthals - you have a lot of Ape in you.
  5. Tadhg Gaelach

    Tadhg Gaelach Legend Political Irish Donator Battle Royale

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    Actually, the humans are closer to the ape then the Neanderthals were.
  6. Atlantean Irish

    Atlantean Irish Member Political Irish

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    I know where it came from and I disagree that it came solely from 'the ordinary folk'. The very fact you state our state education has been/is wrong, or has not highlighted the issues you place emphasis on, only goes to prove that the "Irish as Blacks" theme had to be used in the contemporary sense as a manipulation device. Because according to you, the education was wrong, therefore the Irish must have been/be in a state of ignorance, therefore modern authors reason for using that device in their modern films is as a concerted effort in education camp philosophy - a "recorrection" in their "wrong" thinking (an error as you have stated, due to state education) and therefore their motivation is to manipulate Irish people into identifying as Black.

    Your point still misses the "Commitments" point I brought up about the "Irish as Black" theme being used NOW in contemporary media and film. It is used solely as an emotional manipulation tool and the authors of such films intend it for such and know exactly that that is why and what they are doing.

    Another example which reinforces the proof that their prime motivation is for "identity engineering" in order to quash Irish opposition to mass-immigration (which is what the point was) is the fact that Doyle is a regular writer for "Metro Éireann" a magazine wholly given over to the purpose of asserting a policy that the Irish cannot assert their ancestral and cultural birthright's, territorial and resource claims - that they must be open to all and diluted to mean Irish = anything to anyone from anywhere = meaning nothing at all.
    Roddy Doyle - Metro Eireann

    The fact Doyle has his own section in that paper and writes regularly promoting such a theme of the dilution and extinction of Irish ethnicity and sovereignty reinforces exactly his motivations for "The Commitments" as being same "identity engineering" tool.

    Another proof that such authors, directors etc prime motivation is for "identity engineering" is the altering in modern media of our myths and legends to incorporate Arabs and blacks as characters.

    State broadcaster depicts legendary Irish hero Cú Chulainn as an African.

    I don't think RTE did this with reference and homage to the extremely small fractional part of history being interpreted to equate Irish history, identity and totality with Africans/blacks (especially when other Europeans as has every race, been rivals with others of the same racial family, and with Irish enslaving their British cousins in times before British imperialism).

    To not see the multicult agenda in the RTE "Cú Chulainn" by a multicult state apparatus and in the case of "The Commitments" an out and out multicult author (Roddy Doyle)who is currently engaged in actively promoting the infusion of peoples you describe into the Irish ethnic and cultural body, right here in our ethnic home, no longer at a distance or a remove, not just as part of a supportive narrative where they are at a distance and not directly coming into and having the opportunity to change our ethnicity forever to that which it never was previously, but actively now directly changing the very fundamental make-up of that ethnicity and culture...to not see that is dangerously naive, and as stated, something the socialist Connolly would not have fallen for.
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  7. Antóin Mac Comháin

    Antóin Mac Comháin Respected Member

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    What next? Mise Alba?

    [​IMG] An A'Chailleach on the north side of the Glencoe Pass

    Mise Alba:
    Sine mé ná an Chailleach Gleann Comhann

    Mór mo ghlóir:
    Mé a rug Setanta óg

    Mór mo náir:
    Mo chlann féin a dhíol a máthair

    Mór mo phian:
    Bithnaimhde do mo shíorchiapadh

    Mór mo bhrón:
    D'éag an dream inar chuireas dóchas

    Mise Alba:
    Uaigní mé ná an Chailleach Gleann Comhann

    Was one of Cú Chulainns wives or teachers not Scottish? I forget the name, Scaithag? but in theory, she may have been one of the Donn-shléibhe, the Brown-skin mountain Clan..

    Bear Cults are scattered all across Scandinavia, which is where I'm theorizing that the Donn-shléibhe came from. Sami are the original inhabitants of Scandinavia and they are either blond and blue-eyed, or dark-skinned with jet black hair.


    - This bear bone discovery in Sligo could re-write Irish ... - The Journal

    The archaeological evidence exists now to prove that bears existed in Ireland. Is there linguistic evidence? Lilting (Munster) appears to be very similar to Joiking (Scandinavia)..

    Mari Boine - "Brother Eagle"

    Stick Mari Boine on the Glencoe mountains 2,000 years ago, and there you have your Scaithag. I'm not a fan of Doyle, and my advice to you and people like you, if you are opposed to mixed races is very simple: Don't bang foreign birds.

    Racialists are a Godsend to the Landlord Class content to flood this country with cheap labour and migrants, and I would hazard a guess that you are anything but a Socialist.