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The Yinon plan for a "Greater Israel".

Discussion in 'Foreign Affairs' started by SwordOfStCatherine, May 13, 2016.

  1. colm from clonmel

    colm from clonmel Member Political Irish

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    From my perspective the Christians are the people of Israel, I'm sure that's not news to you but as you know the Pharisses killed Jesus and John the Baptist was an Essene so the real people of Israel are the christians, the jews that are with us today are fake:

    Matthew 23English Standard Version (ESV)

    Seven Woes to the Scribes and Pharisees

    23 Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples, 2 “The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses' seat, 3 so do and observe whatever they tell you, but not the works they do. For they preach, but do not practice.4 They tie up heavy burdens, hard to bear,[a] and lay them on people's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to move them with their finger. 5 They do all their deeds to be seen by others. For they make their phylacteries broad and their fringes long, 6 and they love the place of honor at feasts and the best seats in the synagogues 7 and greetings in the marketplaces and being called rabbi[b] by others. 8 But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brothers.[c] 9 And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven. 10 Neither be called instructors, for you have one instructor, the Christ. 11 The greatest among you shall be your servant. 12 Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.

    13 “But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut the kingdom of heaven in people's faces. For you neither enter yourselves nor allow those who would enter to go in.[d] 15 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel across sea and land to make a single proselyte, and when he becomes a proselyte, you make him twice as much a child of hell[e] as yourselves.

    16 “Woe to you, blind guides, who say, ‘If anyone swears by the temple, it is nothing, but if anyone swears by the gold of the temple, he is bound by his oath.’ 17 You blind fools! For which is greater, the gold or the temple that has made the gold sacred? 18 And you say, ‘If anyone swears by the altar, it is nothing, but if anyone swears by the gift that is on the altar, he is bound by his oath.’ 19 You blind men! For which is greater, the gift or the altar that makes the gift sacred? 20 So whoever swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it. 21 And whoever swears by the temple swears by it and by him who dwells in it. 22 And whoever swears by heaven swears by the throne of God and by him who sits upon it.

    23 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others. 24 You blind guides, straining out a gnat and swallowing a camel!

    25 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you clean the outside of the cup and the plate, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26 You blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and the plate, that the outside also may be clean.

    27 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs, which outwardly appear beautiful, but within are full of dead people's bones and all uncleanness. 28 So you also outwardly appear righteous to others, but within you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.

    29 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you build the tombs of the prophets and decorate the monuments of the righteous,30 saying, ‘If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ 31 Thus you witness against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. 32 Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers. 33 You serpents, you brood of vipers, how are you to escape being sentenced to hell?34 Therefore I send you prophets and wise men and scribes, some of whom you will kill and crucify, and some you will flog in your synagogues and persecute from town to town, 35 so that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah the son of Barachiah,[f] whom you murdered between the sanctuary and the altar. 36 Truly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.
    Lament over Jerusalem

    37 “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to it! How often would I have gathered your children together as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you were not willing! 38 See, your house is left to you desolate. 39 For I tell you, you will not see me again, until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.’”
    Footnotes:

    1. Matthew 23:4 Some manuscripts omit hard to bear
    2. Matthew 23:7 Rabbi means my teacher, or my master; also verse 8
    3. Matthew 23:8 Or brothers and sisters
    4. Matthew 23:13 Some manuscripts add here (or after verse 12) verse 14: Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you devour widows' houses and for a pretense you make long prayers; therefore you will receive the greater condemnation
    5. Matthew 23:15 Greek Gehenna; also verse 33
    6. Matthew 23:35 Some manuscripts omit the son of Barachiah
    English Standard Version (ESV)
    The Holy Bible, English Standard Version. ESV® Permanent Text Edition® (2016). Copyright © 2001 by Crossway Bibles, a publishing ministry of Good News Publishers.
     
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    SwordOfStCatherine

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    Colm what do you think about the Khazar thesis?
     
  3. colm from clonmel

    colm from clonmel Member Political Irish

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    I looked into it a few years ago, it seemed to be valid on a historical basis in that 90% of jews are Kazars but i'm not a zealot so I'm happy to accept that the jews with us today represent a continuation of bilical times (if that makes sense)
     
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    SwordOfStCatherine

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    Yeah it does. Rabbinic Judaism is definitely a continuation of the Pharisees in the Second Temple period.
     
  5. colm from clonmel

    colm from clonmel Member Political Irish

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    We have a meeting of minds here
     
  6. colm from clonmel

    colm from clonmel Member Political Irish

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    So where do you think this goes? Will there be a greater Israel ? If so, it will not be based on theological grounding, will the muslims over-run it?

    Will the Pharisses build the third temple?

    So many questions, so little time.....
     
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    SwordOfStCatherine

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    This is worth a listen;

     
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  8. kalipa44

    kalipa44 Member Political Irish Donator Battle Royale

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    The Yinon Plan starts in Israel / Palestine.

    The first goal is to ensure a Jewish majority always . This is done by population transfer, the destruction of villages and the theft of village lands. to build the ugly separation wall. The loss of these land that were farmed for centuries by villagers means that these people have no means of earning a living and will probably have to move.

    Another method that is being used is the expulsion of Palestinian families from their homes. These homes are then occupied by Israeli settlers.

    Also services, electricity, water refuse removal etc in the Occupied territories are very poor while the illegal settlements are fully supplied

    Outside of Israel /Palestine, the destruction of Syria, Libya, and Iraq is for the benefit of Israel and the US imo and is all part of the Yinon Plan

    Demographic hysteria leaves Jerusalemites by the wayside | +972 Magazine

    https://www.badil.org/phocadownload...ing-papers/wp18-FPT-Israeli-permit-system.pdf

    War Is Realizing the Israelizing of the World
     
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  9. Anglophile

    Anglophile Member Political Irish

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  10. Plasticpaddy

    Plasticpaddy Member Political Irish

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    The Jews are surrounded by people that want to kill them.Jesus and Christianity are just myths so is Mohammed so is Judaism.What a mess,if only we could just face reality,that we are human,we live on Earth,were going to die.If only we could just grow up.
     
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    Anglophile Member Political Irish

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    'Greater Israel', indeed!!!:smiley:

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  12. kalipa44

    kalipa44 Member Political Irish Donator Battle Royale

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    Israel is surrounded by countries that have been destroyed on their behalf. the others like Jordan and Egypt have long standing agreements with Israel so they are not going to attack.
    The belligerent one is Israel
     
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  13. Olli Rehn

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    I see the antisemitic scum is out in full force !
     
  14. Plasticpaddy

    Plasticpaddy Member Political Irish

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    Israel won the wars that's tough cheese for those that wish to destroy Israel.The nation that wins calls the tune.I have no preference or prejudice I wish the nationalist and religious fanatics would sort their life out.
     
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  15. kalipa44

    kalipa44 Member Political Irish Donator Battle Royale

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    There is no need for ignorant name-calling. If you can't be civil and have any sensible points to make why don't you piss off back to the Zionist occupied territory that is p.ie
     
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  16. Olli Rehn

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    There is no such thing as occupied territory.
     
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    SwordOfStCatherine

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    Really? Do you support the "Hill top Youth"?
     
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  18. kalipa44

    kalipa44 Member Political Irish Donator Battle Royale

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    This "everyone wants to destroy Israel" is a load of nonsense imo. They all seem to be busy trying not to get killed and stop their counties falling apart, while Israel merrily protects ISIS and alQaeda in Syria bombing the place to bits to provide cover for the real terrorists. Israel admitted this themselves. This is about power,expansion and land, nothing to do with religion.
     
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  19. Plasticpaddy

    Plasticpaddy Member Political Irish

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    I have no axe to grind I hope that somehow Jews and arabs sort it out and share.If Israel is destroyed those anyone sane want the Islamist fanatics getting more power?
     
  20. Olli Rehn

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    Sorry- there is occupied territory. I forgot all about your neck of the woods. Are you out this evening petrol bombing some nationalists homes ?