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Ukraine intimidates Europe with US lethal weapons

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Ukraine's government keeps making new enemies. Recently, the country's officials have faced sharp criticism from the authorities of Hungary, Poland, Romania and Moldova for the new education law envisaging that Ukrainian will be the only language used in schools. Ukraine's neighbors condemn this legislation, saying it will infringe on the rights of all ethnic minorities living in Ukraine.

However, instead of listening to the neighbor countries in Europe and resolving the dispute, the Ukrainian authorities preferred to intimidate all those who disagree with their political course. As a deterrent Ukraine chose the lethal weapons it will after all receive from the US. Famous Ukrainian political analyst Oleg Ponomar, who has close contacts to the inner circles of the government, posted the information on his Facebook page. As it turns out, the Ukrainian government is planning to use the lethal weapons against anyone who endangers national security and integrity of Ukraine. Previously, only Russia fitted the description, but now the country's used-to-be friendly western neighbors are also in danger. Mr. Ponomar suggests that they reconsider their position; in other words, he simply intimidates them.

Great news, friends!

About the US lethal weapons supplies:

We will have the weapons! Despite the subversive act in Vinnytsia region, the US realizes that providing Ukraine with military equipment and ammunition is the only way to deter the aggressor. Kurt Volker's statement is an eloquent testimony to that.

All movements and supplies of the weapons will be kept secret to prevent further subversion.

For alarmists and citizens succumbed to the Kremlin's propaganda:

The Armed Forces of Ukraine will receive modern weapons capable of deciding the outcome of the war in our favor. Moreover, based on the information from credible sources, I'll get straight to the point: it will be used against any threats to Ukraine's security and integrity, regardless of where the threats come from. I think Moscow, Budapest, Bucharest and other capitals suffering from delusions of grandeur will get the message clearly. Ukraine won't let anyone endanger its territorial integrity, and our American allies give us their unconditional support in this matter.

Thank you for your attention!

Have a great Sunday evening!


Ukrainian authorities seem to believe that their possibilities are endless and they can do whatever they want. Obviously, these bold statements of Kiev are fully backed by the US government, acting as Ukraine's patron. Such an attitude of the United States to Ukraine really strikes me. The US government is known to arm its European ally, first of all, in order to deter Russia. But it´s important to remember that giving such a dangerous toy as lethal weapons to such a disobedient and ill-bred child as Ukraine is risky: explosions at the ammunition depot in Vinnytsia show that the Ukrainian military are not very good at 'playing with such toys'. Apparently, the White House fails to understand that the military aid they provide to the aggressive Ukraine's government may be used not only against their initial target, but also against other nations Ukraine considers unfriendly. Eventually, the USA puts the security of the European continent in jeopardy.
 

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Textbook opening post by one of the Kremlins trolls that are paid to spam message boards the world over with whatever cack they are now pushing
It's the standard Russian MO ie a non-existent source is invented that makes wild claims with zero evidence in this case "supported" by an irrelevant photo of the brief and unproductive visit of Poroshenko to the White House several months ago.
The objective is that among the vast majority of readers that will laugh at it a few useful idiots will pick up the ball and run with it.

There has of course been no decision made by the US to provide lethal weapons to Ukraine as of yet (although if I was a gambling man Id stick a tenner on them arriving at some point). If/when they do arrive they will of course be pointed at the forces Putin has sent into Donbass and no one else, hence the Kremlin having to manufacture concern among Europeans about their potential arrival.

The "education" story is a non-issue. It has been written into the Ukrainian constitution since Independence that Ukrainian is the one official language of the country and that the Government is obliged to promote its use in all Government programs. So the fact that they have announced that all state funded schools will have to teach through Ukrainian is unremarkable.

And while there has been low level grumbling from Ukraine's western neighbours this has been rather muted and its ludicrous to suggest that this storm in a teacup could ever be a major diplomatic affair.
The likes of Poland wont make a big deal about it less the lack of non-Polish speaking state schools in Poland is pointed out nor the fact that there is nothing to stop Poland putting its money where its mouth is and using Polish taxpayers money to finance Polish speaking schools in Ukraine if they feel its that big an issue as the Ukrainian language restriction only applies to schools funded by the Ukrainian taxpayer.
 

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The Anglo-American Empire has seized Ukraine and is currently asset stripping its interior whilst the self hating Ukrainian dullards are in a frenzy over a scarecrow dressed in a Mao suit and a mask of Putin on its head, all propped up by that very same Anglo-mercantile empire.

You gotta hand to the Anglos-Americans, they are accomplished magicians and illusionists, great at the old bait n' switch, able to turn reality on its head, turn kinsmen into blood enemies and get people to praise their own burglars.

I remember I used to call it the "Paul Daniels Empire" for this reason.





 

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Trump authorizes $41.5 million sale of lethal US weaponry to Ukraine

Trump authorizes $41.5 million sale of lethal US weaponry to Ukraine
Nasty Trump authorising the sale of Javelin Missiles that the nasty Ukrainians will be able to direct against the hundreds of Peace-Tanks that Russia has sent into East Ukraine.

By the way Canada authorised the sale of Lethal weapons to Ukraine a week or so before Trump did.
The information was published on December 13 by the Canada Gazette, which is the official publication of the Canadian government.
"The list of countries to whom it is allowed to sell lethal weapons is changing in connection with the addition of Ukraine in alphabetical order," the statement said. "The amendments come into force on the day of its registration [December 13, 2017]."​
 

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Basically what happened in Ukraine was the neocons were enraged that Putin discouraged Obama from attacking Syria in 2013.

So Victoria Nuland was ordered to kick off the Maidan to open a new front against Putin. I guess the hope was Putin would be so distracted by Ukraine he could devote no more time to Syria and the Syrian government would fall.

Thankfully it did not work out that way.
 

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Basically what happened in Ukraine was the neocons were enraged that Putin discouraged Obama from attacking Syria in 2013.

So Victoria Nuland was ordered to kick off the Maidan to open a new front against Putin. I guess the hope was Putin would be so distracted by Ukraine he could devote no more time to Syria and the Syrian government would fall.

Thankfully it did not work out that way.
WHAT THE FUCK IS THE THANKFULLY ABOUT THE TEN THOUSAND THAT HAVE BEEN KILLED IN PUTINS WAR IN EAST UKRAINE.
 

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WHAT THE FUCK IS THE THANKFULLY ABOUT THE TEN THOUSAND THAT HAVE BEEN KILLED IN PUTINS WAR IN EAST UKRAINE.
It's Victoria Nuland's war. Anyone who is a true friend of Ukraine should be congratulating Putin for not overreacting to the sight of the Kiev oligarchy shelling Russian civilians via airstrikes. Indeed if anything Putin has been too permissive and forgiving in this respect.

Oh and if you're good lady wife must post, get her to set up a new account, K? This business of two people sharing the one account is for the birds.
 

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It's Victoria Nuland's war. Anyone who is a true friend of Ukraine should be congratulating Putin for not overreacting to the sight of the Kiev oligarchy shelling Russian civilians via airstrikes. Indeed if anything Putin has been too permissive and forgiving in this respect.

Oh and if you're good lady wife must post, get her to set up a new account, K? This business of two people sharing the one account is for the birds.

Personally, I think Putin should have invaded Ukraine to the Dnipro and annexed the lot of it as part of Russia. All of Ukraine is really part of Russia. It's a pity the Soviet Union was so permissive with these people.
 

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WHAT THE FUCK IS THE THANKFULLY ABOUT THE TEN THOUSAND THAT HAVE BEEN KILLED IN PUTINS WAR IN EAST UKRAINE.
It's not really "Putin's war" when it was deliberately fomented by an injection of 5 billion dollars of US money
and lots of Victoria Nuland driven monkey business!

If you are so bothered by the many casualties in Ukraine then instead of spreading bullshit propaganda and lies here on behalf of the actual war criminals themselves, why not tell your girlfriend's nazi buddies that shelling a city like Donensk indiscriminately and using unguided ballistic missiles on a city has killed thousands of innocent women and children and is a war crime, and that they should not have done it!

You need to stop thinking with your knob wexford!
 

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It's not really "Putin's war" when it was deliberately fomented by an injection of 5 billion dollars of US money
and lots of Victoria Nuland driven monkey business!

If you are so bothered by the many casualties in Ukraine then instead of spreading bullshit propaganda and lies here on behalf of the actual war criminals themselves, why not tell your girlfriend's nazi buddies that shelling a city like Donensk indiscriminately and using unguided ballistic missiles on a city has killed thousands of innocent women and children and is a war crime, and that they should not have done it!

You need to stop thinking with your knob wexford!
Can you give me some impartial links (ie that have zero connection to the Kremlin or its acolytes (Globalresearch, zerohedge etc)) that support this supposed indiscriminate shelling of civilian areas by Ukrainian forces?

The best example of this was in the battle of Sloviansk in the early days of the Russian invasion in Spring 2014 - the Kremlin was pumping out non stop claims of all this indiscriminate shelling by Ukrainians - Bortomollo over on P.IE was working 24 hour shifts relaying the Kremlin "evidence" of Schools/Kintergardens/Hospitals being blown up by the Kyiv junta.

Well guess what, when Sloviansk was liberated by Ukrainian forces and the worlds press was allowed in ? The evidence showed that none of that happened.

Its been three and a half years since Putin sent his forces in and the numbers of civilians killed is less than 3,000, (quite a small number considering the volume of military hardware Putin has sent in) but listening to the Kremlin it sounds like the Junta has been killing that many every month.

The fact is that the overwhelming majority of deaths have been among military forces.

You need to start thinking full stop.
 

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Putin's gang of Russian crooks and thugs are doing everything in their power to threaten
the Baltics, Ukraine, Poland, the rest of the EU, NATO etc etc - and all you loons can
bullshit about is the Ukraine?:rolleyes:
 

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Putin's gang of Russian crooks and thugs are doing everything in their power to threaten
the Baltics, Ukraine, Poland, the rest of the EU, NATO etc etc - and all you loons can
bullshit about is the Ukraine?:rolleyes:
Yeah. We should all be shilling for the ethnic cleansing of palestinians by the Israelis instead! :p

The only threats from Russia are in the fevered minds of a US manipulated propaganda bullhorn masquerading as a free press.
And of course those vomitted out by the US state department then parrotted ad nauseaum on the internet by complete wankers like yourself and Wexford, whose cock apparently is constantly stuck in a deluded Ukranian and hence is completely hogging all the blood supply intended for his brain (assuming he is not lying about her as well of course!)
 
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In Ukraine there is a Jew oligarch who has funded the Nazi war battalions.

That is pretty f**ked up when you think about it!
Nothing fucked up about a Ukrainian using his money to fund forces fighting against the army that Putin sent into Ukraine.

The fucked up bit is Putin invading Ukraine.
 

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Hers a good laugh.
After exhaustive negotiations a prisoner swap took place yesterday with 76 Ukrainian prisoners held by the Russians in East Ukraine swopped for 306 prisoners held by the Ukrainians.

Well the laugh is that 20 per cent of the prisoners released by Ukraine decided to stay in Ukraine controlled territory.

In the first prisoners of war exchange in over a year, 74 of 168 Ukrainian soldiers having been held in captivity in the Russian-controlled Donbas are coming home.

The Ukrainian side handed over 237 prisoners despite the promise to release 306: 29 prisoners brought to the exchange point refused to go back to the separatists’-controlled side, while 40 who had already served their sentence and were released did not show up for the swap.
74 Ukrainians come home from Donbas in POW exchange
 

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Yeah. We should all be shilling for the ethnic cleansing of palestinians by the Israelis instead! :p

The only threats from Russia are in the fevered minds of a US manipulated propaganda bullhorn masquerading as a free press.
And of course those vomitted out by the US state department then parrotted ad nauseaum on the internet by complete wankers like yourself and Wexford, whose cock apparently is constantly stuck in a deluded Ukranian and hence is completely hogging all the blood supply intended for his brain (assuming he is not lying about her as well of course!)

Russia is a kleptocrat mafia state, run by a murdering thug - with designs on many countries beyond it's borders.

...And Left Wing gobshites like you are enraptured with the RT propaganda!!!:smiley:

No wonder I struck a nerve, and embarrassed you.:D