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Who are the Muslim Brotherhood?

Discussion in 'Immigration & Refugees' started by Tadhg Gaelach, Nov 4, 2017.

  1. Tadhg Gaelach

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    SWP founder, Tony Cliff, famously described the Muslim Brotherhood (MB) as a Fascist organisation, under the control of MI6, and, in many ways, the development of the MB does parallel the development of the National Socialist Party in Germany. The MB was set up in Egypt, in 1928, as a petty bourgeois response to the perceived threats of Communism from the East and nihilistic Capitalism from the West. As the Nazis found an escape from these challenges in the mists of Teutonic myth, the MB sought to “return” to a mythological Islamic caliphate, under the slogan ‘The Koran is our constitution.’ The key principals of the MB are the protection of private property, and the rejection of all systems of state social security. The poor must be looked after by means of private charity. These principals mean that while there has been a great deal of tension between the MB and Western imperialism, there has always been a great area of common interest. As we see in states like Saudi Arabia today, the Western imperialists have no real problem with Sharia law and the suppression of women’s rights and gay rights – as long as private property is respected and the free market \ privatisation agenda promoted. The Muslim Brotherhood's Mohamed Morsi is a perfect example of this hybrid of Islamic conservatism and Western economic liberalism. He studied for his Phd in the USA during the late 1970s and early 1980s, and taught at California State University. His short lived MB government in Egypt was primarily Western in management style and economic outlook, but imposed a medieval moral regime on a highly reluctant industrial working class.

    From the very start, the Brotherhood’s founder, Hassan al-Banna, attracted the patronage of wealthy Egyptian merchants and landowners, who feared the growing Communist movement in the Middle East – particularly in Egypt, which, already in the 1920s, had the largest industrial working class in the Muslim world. The Nationalist movement was almost equally feared, due to its demands for the nationalisation of key economic assets. During the 1930s, the MB began to work directly with British intelligence – even as it carried out a small scale assassination campaign against British soldiers in Egypt and publicly called for British withdrawal. MB members were used to infiltrate the Communist and Nationalist organizations, and to pass information to their British handlers.However, it was not until the Arab-Zionist war, beginning in 1947, that the MB really took off. The war gave the Brotherhood cover to set up large scale paramilitary units, supposedly for use against the Zionists, but never actually used against them. It also gave the whole idea of Islamism a new found legitimacy among ordinary people, as both the Arab monarchies and nationalist states were seen to have failed miserably in the face of much smaller Zionist forces. The war also began collaboration between the MB and the highly influential Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini. Al-Husseini was a creation of British intelligence in Palestine. He had failed to finish his studies at the Al Azhar Islamic University, but was still appointed to one of the most important religious positions in all of Islam, i.e. the Mufti of Jerusalem, by the British governor of Jerusalem, Sir Ronald Storrs, in 1921. The Mufti, however, was far from being an easy man for the British to control. He made no secret of his Nazi sympathies, and, in 1937, he moved to Berlin to oversee Nazi propaganda broadcasts into the Middle East. He also set up all-Muslim units of the SS. However, the British did not take his betrayal too seriously, and after WW2, MI6 employed him as a propagandist for their newly established Arab News Agency and the Near Eastern Broadcasting Station.

    Al-Banna and the MB had also openly supported the Nazis, but, after the war quickly returned to the full protection of MI6 – though British records from 1942 show that the Brotherhood was still receiving British funding in that year. By 1945, it was clear to the British that the Nationalists were the main threat to their rule in Egypt, and they decided to build up the MB as a bulwark against this threat. However, Al-Banna’s leadership of the MB came to a sudden end, in January 1948, when he was shot dead by Egyptian security forces. This event saw a crisis within the Brotherhood, as various factions vied for leadership positions, and could well have seen the organization split. It was the influence of the Mufti of Jerusalem that pulled the various factions together, and focused the attention of ordinary members on the situation in Palestine. In 1946, the Mufti, together with the Brotherhood, had set up a paramilitary group in Palestine called The Rescuers, numbering up to 10,000 fighters. The Rescuers were tolerated by the British, and never actually challenged British rule, but, the very existence of this group gave the Brotherhood enormous credibility throughout the Arab world.

    1952 saw a catastrophe for the Brotherhood. Army officers seized power in Egypt. At first, the MB was not entirely hostile to the coup. Anwar Sadat had acted as a conduit between the Brotherhood and the Free Officers, and the Officers did not seem entirely hostile to Brotherhood demands. However, when Colonel Gamal Abdal Nasser took power, in 1954, and began a program of land reform and social justice, the Brotherhood joined forces with the British to depose him. Following riots orchestrated by the Brotherhood, Nasser banned the organization. In October of that year, the MB tried to assassinate Nasser, as he gave a speech in Alexandria. The reaction of the state was swift and decisive. Most of the leadership were arrested and sentenced to long prison terms, and six of them were hanged. The MB was no longer a major political force, but it continued to function underground. Indeed, it continued to work with the British on several more assassination attempts on Nasser. It was during this period that the Brotherhood had its first contact with the CIA, when the CIA approved Saudi Arabia’s funding of the Brotherhood against Nasser.

    In 1956, the British, in alliance with France and Israel, launched an invasion of Egypt. The British hope was that the MB would provide a post-Nasser government, that would be sympathetic to Western interests. The failure of this invasion, and Egypt’s victory over imperialism, made Nasser a worldwide hero. His popularity at home was assured. The Brotherhood faded from the popular consciousness. However, it was not deserted by its MI6 and CIA allies, who saw in it an asset for the future.

    Following the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, in 1979, the CIA realised the full potential of exploiting Islamic fundamentalism in its war against secular socialist states in the Middle East. In the same year, the entire Muslim world saw the Iranian Islamic Revolution as proof positive that Islamic resistance to Western imperialism could work, where secular socialist resistance was failing. The Muslim Brotherhood was about to come back onto the world stage. However, they were not needed in Egypt, where a pro-US regime was already in place. In Libya they had no presence, but that was not the case in Syria and Palestine. Since the 1960s, the MB had been orchestrating riots and other disturbances in Syria, but in 1979, with CIA support, they launched a major armed insurrection against the Ba’ath government, led by Hafez al-Assad. In Syria, the Brotherhood had an extra source of power that it had struggled to tap in Egypt – sectarianism. The MB in Syria presents itself as a violently anti-Shia group, but also whips up Sunni feeling against all other non-Sunni groups. In Syria, the Sunni denomination has historically been associated with the landed interest. Many Sunni landowners, who felt threatened by socialist policy, had given money and other forms of support to the Brotherhood. The Alawites, Druze and Christians have been traditionally from the poorer classes. By 1982, the Syrian MB insurrection had been crushed, but the MB and their MI6\CIA allies had more work to do. In Palestine, the CIA and the Israelis realized that the best way to defeat the PLO was by using the Brotherhood. In 1987, out of the ranks of the MB, was formed Hamas – with Israeli and CIA backing. Hamas did indeed destroy the strength of the PLO (though the PLO played a large part in this process itself). Since then Hamas has been a bitter cup for the Zionists - and it could be said that it is now only loosely within the MB fold.

    In recent times, the MB has tried to present itself as a "democratic" political party, presenting candidates in Western suits and ties and mouthing all sorts of platitudes about freedom and democracy. But this is a tactic that's mentioned in the Koran - Lying to non-Muslims for the sake of Islamic conquest is permitted and even encouraged. Today, the MB runs highly funded front groups and campaigns in the USA and Europe, as well as in Muslim countries. The objective has become more and more global with time. Now it is not only to defeat Communism and Secularism in the Middle East - but to establish a World Caliphate and impose Sharia Law on every man, women and child on this earth.
     
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    Tadhg Gaelach

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    Here is a documentary on the history of the Muslim Brotherhood.

     
  3. Antóin Mac Comháin

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    I think you give some people too much credibility. It doesn't matter what their objective is, because it's not achievable.
     
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    Tadhg Gaelach

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    It may not be achievable in the long term - but they don't mind killing millions of people in the attempt. Look what these Islamist scum and their NATO handlers have already done to Libya and Syria. And let's not forget that the European ruling class has no will to stop an Islamic invasion happening. Indeed, they encourage and facilitate it as they think it will be profitable for their class in the short run. The long term doesn't exist for these weak minded and greedy people. That fact is the Muslim Brotherhood's greatest weapon. The MB only deals in the long term.
     
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    Tadhg Gaelach

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    If you watch that documentary you'll see that the MB believes there is no Islam without Jihad to impose Sharia Law on every little corner of the earth. No place on this earth must be left without the rule of Sharia. And by Jihad they don't just mean making sermons to try and convert people - they mean actual war to violently impose Sharia.
     
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    Tadhg Gaelach

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    Another interesting point from that documentary is that when Islamic terrorists want to lay low for a while and take it easy - they almost invariably travel to London, where they receive a welcome from the authorities. I wonder why that would be...
     
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    My grandmother was married to a secularist who died recently and a priest didn't officiate at the funeral. I think you are underestimating how secularist Ireland has become. That's what I meant when I said their objective ultimately doesn't matter.

    I think countries like England have set themselves up for individual terror attacks in the future, because of her policies abroad in countries such as Yemen. Her best defense against that is to stop the arms deals in the Middle East.

    I view attacks by Jihadists on English civilians as attacks on my own people, because I have a lot of friends and relatives scattered throughout England.
     
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    They have as much hope of selling Sharia as the Jehovah's have of selling Jesus.
     
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    You don't sell it,you impose it.
     
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    That is because they are stooges of British Intelligence agencies. They were used for the false and set up Arab spring - they travel to see their Ali G Masters. It's plain as the nose on your face.
     
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    Ah yes the Muslim brotherhood only deals in the long term - a fact you would know and be able to back up of course - what say you - you mean youre talking through your whole? Thanks
     
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    The nexus among the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, Al Qaeda and the Taliban on one side and Western (and Israeli/Pakistani/Saudi) intelligence agencies on the other is highly disturbing. For instance, that current Al Qaeda boss, Ayman al-Zawahiri, cut his teeth in the MB and then lit out to Afghanistan and became an Al Qaeda leader isn't just happenstance. These groups are either solely or in large part monsters of the West's creation.
     
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    Yea, but there's not even a one in a billion chance that could happen. Don't confuse the objective with the means deployed to achieve it. There are no guarantees against the latter, but that doesn't mean they are not one and the same thing.
     
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    02 - March - 2017 - Several Jihadi groups in West Africa announce merger within the Jamaat Nosrat al-Islam wal-Mouslimin. Iyad Ag Ghaly, Djamel Okasha, Amadou Kufa , Hassan Al Ansari and Abu Abderrahman El Senhadji appear in a video. They announce their gathering in one structure and lend allegiance to Ayman al-Zawahiri, the emir of al-Qaeda; To Abdelmalek Droukdel, the emir of AQIM and Haibatullah Akhundzada, Emir of Taliban. Iyad Ag Ghaly is designated as the leader of this movement. - Iyad Ag Ghaly

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    Osama Bin Ladin & Ayman al-Zawahiri

    According to reports, Iyad Ag Ghaly has assumed control of a large array of Jihadist groups under one umbrella as of the beginning of this month. If that is true, the figures for the astronomical rise in Terrorist attacks in France as shown on the map, take on a whole new significance, as he was based in St Etienne before 9/11. He Commanded the Jihadist Forces which over-ran Touareg Nationalists in a Civil War, which effectively gave him control of what is the MAGHREB in the map above. 424 arrests in France. How many of them were arms caches?

    31 - May - 2017

    But it is "worth a try”, noted well-regarded Sahelian analyst Alex Thurston in a recent blog: “A peace process that makes no room for Ag Ghali is one that will be disrupted, perhaps fatally, by regular jihadist attacks.” - Japan rejects immigrants - Is there a war coming to Europe ...

    That fella Ó Raghallaigh? Yar man they are trying to big-up as the Peacemaker?
     
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    Let's not forget that Islam started out with one violent nutter who thought he was hearing voices. He gathered more violent nutters around him, and soon they were able to put all opposition in Arabia to the sword. They then cut through the Byzantine empire like a knife through butter and conquered all of North Africa by the sword. It wasn't long until they were into Europe, conquering Spain and Portugal to the West and all of the Balkans and into Romania and Hungary and on to the gates of Vienna. Unlike then, the European ruling class is no longer willing to stop the Islamic invasion. Whereas before the invasion came in the form of standing armies, today it comes in the form of population replacement. And look at what stands before them in Europe. Sissified men who stand for nothing. Women who refuse to bear children. And a ruling class that is so psychotically greedy that it regards all migrants as potential profit for themselves. The Islamic invasion today doesn't need armies - because there's nobody left in Europe to fight them.
     
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    Os pinos (Galician)

    Que din os rumorosos
    na costa verdecente,
    ó raio transparente
    do prácido luar?
    Que din as altas copas
    de escuro arume harpado
    co seu ben compasado
    monótono fungar?

    Do teu verdor cinguido
    e de benignos astros,
    confín dos verdes castros
    e valeroso chan,
    non deas a esquecemento
    da inxuria o rudo encono;
    desperta do teu sono
    fogar de Breogán.

    Os bos e xenerosos
    a nosa voz entenden,
    e con arroubo atenden
    o noso rouco son,
    mais só os iñorantes,
    e féridos e duros,
    imbéciles e escuros
    non os entenden, non.

    Os tempos son chegados
    dos bardos das idades
    que as vosas vaguidades
    cumprido fin terán;
    pois onde quer, xigante
    a nosa voz pregoa
    a redenzón da boa
    nazón de Breogán.

    The Pines (English translation)

    What do the murmurers say
    On the verdant coast
    Under the transparent beam
    Of the calm moonlight?
    What do the lofty treetops
    Of dark bent pine twigs say
    In their harmonious
    Monotonous buzzing?

    Girded by thy greenness,
    And by benign stars,
    Bound of the green hill forts
    And worthy land,
    Do not let into oblivion
    The harsh rancour of insult;
    Awaken from thy slumbers,
    O hearth of Breoghan.

    The good and generous
    Our voice do understand,
    And eagerly they hearken
    To our rough sounds;
    But only the ignorant,
    And barbaric and hard,
    Those foolish and dark
    Do not understand us.

    The times are now upon us
    Sung by the ancient bards,
    When all your wanderings
    Shall promptly meet their end;
    For everywhere, gigantic,
    Our voice loudly proclaimeth
    The redemption of the good
    Nation of Breoghan.

    Eduardo Pondal

    When the Celts were chased out of Portugal by the Roman empire they made a beeline for the mountains of Greater Ireland and Little Britain. The language found its way back again, 2,000 years later, as we can see from the Eduardo Pondal poem and the use of words such as Bardos, which were taken from Gaelic language dictionaries and incorporated into the local dialect. If the Muzzies do conquer Portugal and Spain, their great great grandchildren will be reading Gaelic literature and not the Koran. When they reach the Pyrenees blow the tunnel, cut the French loose, and head for the hills.
     
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