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Poll Why are Airports so "Airportish"?

Discussion in 'Mad World' started by Dublin 4, Dec 14, 2017.

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Can we make Airports feel more like Home

  1. Yes- they are the 1st Port of Home after all

    37.5%
  2. No - stop yapping they're just for transient Moments

    62.5%
  1. Toby Carlton-Hogge

    Toby Carlton-Hogge Member Political Irish

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    Load of bull,a chara

    There is no Mass Invasion, let's be more realistic.

    We have to compete with other countries a chara.

    Dont bother goin on and on, pal.

    I live in 2017, not cloud cuckoo land.
     
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  2. dwayne

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    There is no mass invasion of Europe with Countries being FORCED to open their border to millions upon millions of people no???
    Do not call me chara you are not Irish nor do you represent of give a shit about the Native Irish People
     
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  3. OP
    Dublin 4

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    Instead of taking on TG you vindicated him & are now trying to drag the Thread of Topic Posting about Posters & garbling about Airline costs- lets see some Pics or hear your Airport experiences...
     
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  4. Toby Carlton-Hogge

    Toby Carlton-Hogge Member Political Irish

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    Like I said horse, I won’t engage with goons who shout.

    Talk properly and you will get engagement, shout, and you can go f***k yourself.
     
  5. Tadhg Gaelach

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    Let's look at each of those in turn.

    1. How do you reduce your input costs on an airline? Well, you have very little % control over fuel prices, or landing fees. The only way you can reduce unit cost is by reducing labour cost. And how did Aer Lingus reduce labour cost? Why only by replacing well paid Native Irish workers with cheap immigrant labour.

    2. How do you reduce cabin crew numbers? Cabin crew numbers are dictated by the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO), not by Aer Lingus. Reworked its schedule? You mean it cut out routes that might have been needed by the Irish nation, but were not so profitable? It may have stopped landing at Shannon, so now the state puts us all at risk by renting out Shannon to the Septics for bombing Iraq and other Muslim countries. Well, this may indeed reduce costs for Aer Lingus, but certainly not for the previous owners of Aer Lingus, i.e. the Irish people.

    3. In short, got rid of well paid Native Irish workers and replaced them with cheap immigrant labour.

    4. In other words, work the immigrants like blacks.

    5. By becoming part of a multinational corporation rather than a national airline, one might indeed get cheaper deals on certain items. But, of course, a multinational like IAG has no loyalty to Ireland or the Irish people, and will completely drop us if they find it more profitable to do so. Here we must consider the risk cost of not having a national airline. The cost to the Irish customer is potentially having to deal with aliens in a foreign land who know nothing about us - and care even less.

    6. It seems you are including Ireland as part of the UK. And perhaps IAG agrees with you. So the cost to us is that our sovereignty is completely disregarded and flouted. Sub-contracting out Irish flights to a third party leaves that third party even more free to replace Native Irish labour with cheap immigrant labour.

    7. National airlines are also able to use the internet, so we may take it that had Aer Lingus remained an Irish national asset, we could still book tickets by internet.

    8. So it sub contracts its maintenance to third party companies - who are free to hire as much cheap immigrant labour as they want.

    9. Aer Lingus completely owned its head office. It was not paying rent for it. Besides that, a state company can just as easily move its HQ as a private company. I would say that moving address was used as an excuse to remove Irish staff and replace them with cheap immigrant labour.

    10. The main way they reduced handling costs at airports was by replacing Irish workers with cheap foreign labour.
     
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    Dublin 4

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    Stop crying & bawlin off topic
     
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  7. Toby Carlton-Hogge

    Toby Carlton-Hogge Member Political Irish

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    input costs? Wtf are you on about Champ.

    You have a lot of control over fuel cost by hedging and adopting proper fuel management procedures.

    cabin crew numbers- dependent on the number of exits on an aircraft.
    With the knocking out of Premier Class service on all but T/A services this was achieved.

    National Airlines are history, Champ, what slate have you been lurking under.

    Regarding Maintenance, why would you maintain your fleet at home, with huge cost rather that fly your machines to a station which does the job better and cheaper.

    The rest of your diatribe is just rubbish.
    Quite frankly Champ what you want is a little communistic set up which ignores competition and
    just ignores reality.

    You couldn’t run a fcuking sweatshop with your attitude,Champ.
     
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  8. Tadhg Gaelach

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    And national companies do that also. Do you think that Aer Lingus never heard of hedging before it was privatized? That would be rather strange - given that it was sold to the same management team that it had when it was the national airline. If they were so incompetent as to not know about hedging before 2006, why do you think they same people would suddenly become competent after that? In reality, Aer Lingus always hedged its fuel costs, but hedging is not nearly as effective as you'd imagine. You can often end up actually paying more if the futures price goes against you - and it often will.
     
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  9. Tadhg Gaelach

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    You are claiming that Aer Lingus replaced all of its aircraft on all routes except trans-Atlantic flights - just to have one less member of cabin crew on each non TA flight?
     
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  10. Tadhg Gaelach

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    Not at all. Many countries have national airlines, and as the privateers continue to collapse into chaos, those numbers will increase.
     
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  11. Tadhg Gaelach

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    In other words, why would you pay the Native Irish a decent wage that would allow them to get married, set up home and give the Irish nation children - when you can get the work done by cheap labour níggars.
     
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  12. Tadhg Gaelach

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    The only sweetshop you could run is a Halal sweetshop - as if you had your way there would be no Irish children left in Ireland.
     
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  13. Toby Carlton-Hogge

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    Listen,Champ, you are just making a fool of yourself.

    Airlines and all other businesses are run to make a profit not to support uncompetitive work practices.

    Look Champ, I realize you need to try to prove you are the bull goose, the big cahuna, the top dog on every thread in here, usually resulting in some auld immigration bullshidt but you don’t phase the Tobster.

    The Tobster has your card marked,Champ.

    Remember that,a chara.
     
  14. Tadhg Gaelach

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    Aer Lingus was built by the labour of the Irish people for the greater glory and accomplishment of the Irish nation. We did not build it for the profit of the scumbag banksters who own and run the British company IAG.
     
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  15. Tadhg Gaelach

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    Well, Toby, I believe that this is actually the first thread you have posted anything resembling a post on a political topic - so I suppose we should be grateful for small mercies. You failed to reach the 600 posts without a single one of them being on politics.
     
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  16. Toby Carlton-Hogge

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    Timmie, Champ, you need a good cleaning out.

    Every topic you involve yourself in, and there’s a lorra lorra lot of those, ends up with you spouting bullschidt about immigration.

    Champ, sorry to break this to you, but on this forum you are seen as a sad crunt who has nothing to do all day except pump out bile and immigration rhetoric.

    From 0600 in the morning to 0059 you are at it.

    Take a look at yourself you sad crunt
     
  17. Youngdan

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    There is only one airline for A Chara Komrad Timsky.
    Perfect for your next frequent flier miles trip to your favorite gulag.
     
  18. Tadhg Gaelach

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    16,017 Likes can't be all wrong....
     
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  19. Tadhg Gaelach

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    How many passengers has Air Koryo killed? How many has United Airlines killed?

    [​IMG]
     
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  20. Youngdan

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    I was right, lol.